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Getting into TRT. Am I wasting my time trying to go legit? Here is my background.

MaxWell

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HI Guys,

It will look heavy for a ''first post'' but I have been around since 2005, but I had my account deleted years ago (as per my request) for personal reasons.

Here is my profile;
Male, 38 years old / 190 pounds / Keep fat between 8.5-10% year around (calculated with a 7-spots method with the right tools).
Lower back, Subscapular & Abdominal is where my fat store at 9-11mm and it drive me crazy!

I have been training since the age of 16 without a breaks.

I am not a big juicer, I am a fan of anabolic compound... Here is what I like(d);
  • Primo only cycle at 400-600mg per week for 12 weeks (probably did it 4-5 times) / I have not done it over the last 9 years.
  • Low dose of Anavar (20-30mg per day) for 6 weeks (Over the last 9 years I probably would have done it twice a year)
  • HGH at 4-5 ui per day +/- 6 months per year over the last 12 years. I normally take break when I can't sleep because my body part, especially arms get so numbs... I miss those good old Riptropin :)

After a lot of reading, I am realizing that I am in the low range of Testosterone (see numbers below).
My symptoms:
  • a lowering sex drive that I am tired of covering with micro-dose of Viagra (10mg - just for a little kick) in the evening. AM sex never been a problem. and;
  • fat deposit I can't get rid off in the middle section.
I am looking into getting TRT! I want to optimize my body for the next 30 years.

My questions:
  1. Is there a reputable HRT clinic in the Greater Montreal? I found https://www.lescliniquesmaroisurologue.ca/ Any feedback?
  2. With the numbers below, Am I wasting my time/money going to see a Dr.?
  3. Is there any good blood testing website that you guys use ? letsgetchecked.com/ca has stopped doing business in Canada due to issues with Custom (I called...) It will be required if I start a TRT without a doctor supervision. I cannot go see my family doctor monthly when I start the TRT to monitor my numbers...

History of testing
Test in 2019- Age 36

Free Testosterone : 368 (Ref. 210-534 pmol/L)
Bioavailable Testosterone : 8.6 (Ref. 4.5-13 pmol/L)
Total Testosterone : 12.5 (Ref. 8-30pmol/L)
SHBD : 14 (Ref. 10- nmol / L)

Test in Dec - 2009 - Age 27 (At the end of a 13 weeks cycle of Primo at 600mg per week) - This stuff what not shutting me down...
Free Testosterone : 342 (Ref. 175-700 pmol/L)
Bioavailable Testosterone : 7.8 (Ref. 8-29 pmol/L)
Total Testosterone : 9.1 (Ref. 8-29 pmol/L)
SHBD : 9 (Ref. 10- nmol / L)

Test in May - 2009 - Age 26
Free Testosterone : 302 (Ref. 175-700 pmol/L)
Total Testosterone : 12 (Ref. 8-29 pmol/L)

Test in 2007 - Age 24
Free Testosterone : 219 (Ref. 175-700 pmol/L)
Bioavailable Testosterone : 8.4 (Ref. 8-29 pmol/L)
Total Testosterone : 13.5 (Ref. 8-29 pmol/L)
SHBD : 17 (Ref. 10- nmol / L)

Test in 2005 - Age 22
Free Testosterone : 311 (Ref. 223-915 pmol/L)
Bioavailable Testosterone : 6.5 (Ref. 4.6-18.8 nmol/L)
Total Testosterone : 11.5 (Ref. 10-30 pmol/L)
SHBD : 21.6 (Ref. 12-46 nmol / L)


Thanks for your help & support!
 

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Will be hard to get trt with your numbers. You can try with that clinic it will be easier then going to a endo.

I mean I would want to use pharma test but syn pharma is decent if u do it your self just don’t take too much that raises your rbc count over range 100-125 per week obviously need blood work to figure this out but most guys don’t need 200 a week for trt
 

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You're trying to tell us you got that physique with various PED's but never incorporated any Testosterone OR during those blood tests you weren't taking any ? @MaxWell , just throw in some Testosterone bro. Anywhere from 250-500 mgs/weekly. TRT should be 100-140 mgs/weekly. I highly Recommend SYN Pharma. They're as close or better than pharma grade ( slightly overdosed) that you will find !
As far as HRT clinics in Quebec, I'm sorry I cannot help as I'm from Ontario BUT you'll get a response soon enough from various Quebec'ers here on our forum. @Goldenrod is your GoTo when it comes to Online labs I'm pretty sure. He's a moderator here so you should get a reply very soon!

You have a great physique btw....Your neck is outstanding ! What is the circumference or what size dress shirts ?
 

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You're trying to tell us you got that physique with various PED's but never incorporated any Testosterone OR during those blood tests you weren't taking any ? @MaxWell , just throw in some Testosterone bro. Anywhere from 250-500 mgs/weekly. TRT should be 100-140 mgs/weekly. I highly Recommend SYN Pharma. They're as close or better than pharma grade ( slightly overdosed) that you will find !
As far as HRT clinics in Quebec, I'm sorry I cannot help as I'm from Ontario BUT you'll get a response soon enough from various Quebec'ers here on our forum. @Goldenrod is your GoTo when it comes to Online labs I'm pretty sure. He's a moderator here so you should get a reply very soon!

You have a great physique btw....Your neck is outstanding ! What is the circumference or what size dress shirts ?
I am not a mod, all the same for the time being I am using my doctor and my left over LGC kits. LGC is not servicing Canada and they will again but when that will be, they will not disclose.
I don't know any other private labs that provide blood tests that don't go into your medical file. If you don't care if they do into your medical file, there are lots of anti-aging clinics and clinics for blood testing.
I'm not near Montreal so I don't know the best ones but hopefully someone can help you.

I too am looking for another lab to run bloods as the Naturopaths in this province can not do blood tests. Many Naturopaths in other provinces can and a lot of people use them. You ask for what you want, and the info should be private but ask to ensure if you don't want it going to your doctor.

Good luck,
GR
 

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I don't think you will be able to get trt prescribed. Not with those numbers.
Why can you not get in monthly to see your Dr? Come clean with them with your plans and a good dr should be willing to help you. If you're going to do it anyways a responsible dr should be.willing to help monitor your bloods.
It may take a few months to get things figured out but the dr visits would get fewer as numbers level off.
 

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I am not a mod, all the same for the time being I am using my doctor and my left over LGC kits. LGC is not servicing Canada and they will again but when that will be, they will not disclose.
I don't know any other private labs that provide blood tests that don't go into your medical file. If you don't care if they do into your medical file, there are lots of anti-aging clinics and clinics for blood testing.
I'm not near Montreal so I don't know the best ones but hopefully someone can help you.

I too am looking for another lab to run bloods as the Naturopaths in this province can not do blood tests. Many Naturopaths in other provinces can and a lot of people use them. You ask for what you want, and the info should be private but ask to ensure if you don't want it going to your doctor.

Good luck,
GR
if you already have a kit but never sent it in yet does it still matter?
 

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Apologies for the threadjack, but since when did they feminize..erm... readjust the scale where normal goes down to fucking 170 with a high of 700 now??
 

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I’m 36 and I got Trt prescribed and my numbers were higher than yours. From first consul to injecting took about 2 weeks. If you go to an anti aging clinic I don’t think you’ll have any issues getting a script.
 

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I know guys who got TRT scripts with Test in the 14-16 range thru anti aging clinics. A GP or endo will generally not prescribe in that range usually needs to be below 8 or 9 but the private clinics tend to “optimize” hormones so it’s fairly easy if you don’t mind paying.
 

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@MaxWell welcome back to the board. Do you not plan to live past 68?

I concur with @Rubicon500 , this is the route I went 3 years ago with a private anti-aging clinic.

In regards to Syn, it is an excellent choice for self trt because it is correctly dosed, not over-dosed as was haphazardly mentioned above by @NG_F
 

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@MaxWell
In regards to Syn, it is an excellent choice for self trt because it is correctly dosed, not over-dosed as was haphazardly mentioned above by @NG_F

I concur with this. I learned the lesson after my first experience with anabolics to benchmark any new lab I try versus my pharm TRT. Two labs I've used had blood work absolutely dead on versus my pharma test. Syn was one of them.
 

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Definitely worth trying through the doc. No dice head to the anti-aging clinic. Mostly so you can run pharma test. Not saying anything is necessarily wrong with UGL’s but over a lifetime your going to run a lot of this through your body and the lowest impurity possible the better.
 

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If you have medical plan it would be worth the pain in the ass of getting a Dr to write a script for trt. I was paying 10 bucks for a 100mg/mL of test.
Without a medical plan its 110 per vial, more than double the cost of a good underground lab.

Considering youre on TRT it the rest of your life that may be a factor.
 

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You're trying to tell us you got that physique with various PED's but never incorporated any Testosterone OR during those blood tests you weren't taking any ? @MaxWell , just throw in some Testosterone bro. Anywhere from 250-500 mgs/weekly. TRT should be 100-140 mgs/weekly. I highly Recommend SYN Pharma. They're as close or better than pharma grade ( slightly overdosed) that you will find !
You have a great physique btw....Your neck is outstanding ! What is the circumference or what size dress shirts ?
Hi NG_F,
Thanks for your input! My shirts have no size on it, they are all custom made because of my arm at 16.5-17.5'' and waist at 32''. The neck is 16''.
No shirt fit those arms lol
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Yes sir, I did Sustanon at 1cc per week with 200mg of deca for 8 week when I was 21. I bloated like a balloon and got studs in my back. That my only experience with Test. I react very well to soft PED suck as HGH, Anavar and Primo.
 
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I too am looking for another lab to run bloods as the Naturopaths in this province can not do blood tests. Many Naturopaths in other provinces can and a lot of people use them. You ask for what you want, and the info should be private but ask to ensure if you don't want it going to your doctor.
If I find one online lab I will let you know! For now I will do a test with my Dr. and see the result. After that, If it is still low, I will try the clinic I mentioned in the first post.
 

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Apologies for the threadjack, but since when did they feminize..erm... readjust the scale where normal goes down to fucking 170 with a high of 700 now??
Because they align the numbers with the average population being obese with bad eating habit, bad life habit, chemical exposure etc.
 
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