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I just got prescribed 50mg of depo test every other week. That's 25 mg a week! Fuck...I pointed out how low this was to the doc but he thinks this will enhance what I am naturally producing. He does not believe this dose will be mitigated by the hormonal feedback loop.

I am wondering if I should even bother, I probably will but that means I have to wait another 6 weeks to follow up with blood work and see if the dose needs to be adjusted. Now that I have this in my hands I am actually wondering if its a bad idea to mess with my system for the non-existent boost 25mg would produce. Seems like this can do absolutely no good at all and only harm through suppression. Thoughts? Jeers?
 
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I’m finding out that this is a long game with these docs. You could supplement with test prop, and discontinue with enough time to clear before bloods, but you have to go in low for him to make changes...so either way, you’re going to be sub-optimal for a period of time.
 
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Hearing shit like this makes me fucking sick to my stomach.. unreal!

If you're willing to feel like shit for a few weeks or even months, play his game.. it may work out for you in the long run. Be sure the follow up blood work is done two weeks after the 50mg shot.
 
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I just got prescribed 50mg of depo test every other week. That's 25 mg a week! Fuck...I pointed out how low this was to the doc but he thinks this will enhance what I am naturally producing. He does not believe this dose will be mitigated by the hormonal feedback loop.

I am wondering if I should even bother, I probably will but that means I have to wait another 6 weeks to follow up with blood work and see if the dose needs to be adjusted. Now that I have this in my hands I am actually wondering if its a bad idea to mess with my system for the non-existent boost 25mg would produce. Seems like this can do absolutely no good at all and only harm through suppression. Thoughts? Jeers?
As much as it sucks...
a) the docs will be SUPER careful and will go low and slow. You're lucky! I had acutely low levels, and had been that way for years and I couldn't get my GP to prescribe me anything, and the most I could get out of an anti-aging clinic here was a script for andro gel...no thank you!
b) that's never a bad thing to take your time with these types of things
c) this is a long game and he has a point in that starting low will augment but not really interrupt too much and give you a chance to slowly build to "normal" without blasting your body too hard, especially over a 2 week period
d) you haven't posted your bloodwork results (unless I missed them?) so nobody can really offer any advice to the contrary
e) do you have any other conditions like high blood pressure, diabetes, lung/heart/brain issues or are you on any other meds for anything? He could be erring on the side of caution to avoid any unpleasant interactions/complications.

I would say this - go with the recommended dosage (is it self injected or do you have to go to the office?)
Start for the first few weeks and see how it goes. Go get your bloodwork and if it comes back sub-optimal he will likely raise your script.
The other option of course (if you're self-injecting) is to just not use it at all, then go back in 6 weeks get new bloodwork and it will reflect no changes. Thus forcing him to prescribe a higher dose.
But again - without blood work and other stats on your height, weight, BF%, diet and training regimen it's hard for anyone to make any sort of educated recommendations/helpful tips.

From what I've read/seen most TRT doses of Test Cyp are somewhere between 50-200mg per week (of course there are always outliers)
Again - lots of factors here, how well you respond to it, how prone you are to side effects, interactions with other drugs, history or current hypertension, etc. etc. etc.

Then of course another option as you've mentioned is taking matters into your own hands and monitoring your own bloodwork, and self-prescribing/administering the therapy with UGL substances.

Good luck on your journey - whatever you choose to do!
 
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As much as it sucks...
a) the docs will be SUPER careful and will go low and slow. You're lucky! I had acutely low levels, and had been that way for years and I couldn't get my GP to prescribe me anything, and the most I could get out of an anti-aging clinic here was a script for andro gel...no thank you!
b) that's never a bad thing to take your time with these types of things
c) this is a long game and he has a point in that starting low will augment but not really interrupt too much and give you a chance to slowly build to "normal" without blasting your body too hard, especially over a 2 week period
d) you haven't posted your bloodwork results (unless I missed them?) so nobody can really offer any advice to the contrary
e) do you have any other conditions like high blood pressure, diabetes, lung/heart/brain issues or are you on any other meds for anything? He could be erring on the side of caution to avoid any unpleasant interactions/complications.

I would say this - go with the recommended dosage (is it self injected or do you have to go to the office?)
Start for the first few weeks and see how it goes. Go get your bloodwork and if it comes back sub-optimal he will likely raise your script.
The other option of course (if you're self-injecting) is to just not use it at all, then go back in 6 weeks get new bloodwork and it will reflect no changes. Thus forcing him to prescribe a higher dose.
But again - without blood work and other stats on your height, weight, BF%, diet and training regimen it's hard for anyone to make any sort of educated recommendations/helpful tips.

From what I've read/seen most TRT doses of Test Cyp are somewhere between 50-200mg per week (of course there are always outliers)
Again - lots of factors here, how well you respond to it, how prone you are to side effects, interactions with other drugs, history or current hypertension, etc. etc. etc.

Then of course another option as you've mentioned is taking matters into your own hands and monitoring your own bloodwork, and self-prescribing/administering the therapy with UGL substances.

Good luck on your journey - whatever you choose to do!
A lot of great points here. Honestly I'm not that low at all, in the 300s pmol / dl. But I've been training a decade, got kids, vasectomy, and nothing to lose at just under 40 so I want to kick things up a notch and have fun.

I was pretty straightforward about that with this dr. Another monster on this very board is getting 200mg a week so from him so I'll take your advice, toughen up, and trust the expert. I think I was just surprised more than anything . Thanks!
 
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Take what he gives you for now and see what the blood test reveal!! Then you can discuss n hopefully increase your dose!!or seek a new doctor??? I told a doctor once and said im on 200 mg a week of test and said that to much lol
 
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I just got prescribed 50mg of depo test every other week. That's 25 mg a week! Fuck...I pointed out how low this was to the doc but he thinks this will enhance what I am naturally producing. He does not believe this dose will be mitigated by the hormonal feedback loop.

I am wondering if I should even bother, I probably will but that means I have to wait another 6 weeks to follow up with blood work and see if the dose needs to be adjusted. Now that I have this in my hands I am actually wondering if its a bad idea to mess with my system for the non-existent boost 25mg would produce. Seems like this can do absolutely no good at all and only harm through suppression. Thoughts? Jeers?
Find another Doc, this is a completely absurd protocol. Hope he's able to read your labs correctly and adjust that dosage.
 

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Take what he gives you for now and see what the blood test reveal!! Then you can discuss n hopefully increase your dose!!or seek a new doctor??? I told a doctor once and said im on 200 mg a week of test and said that to much lol
For some 200/w is way too much for others it normal everyone is different. I started @ 100mg week 50x2 I doped to 80/w and fell great!
 
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I've been using Dr prescribed TRT for 3 years now, started at 100mg/week and over a year went to 250mg/week. This puts me 3 points higher than the high point of "normal". The problem I'm having is this was prescribed by a pain Dr who stopped taking clients and is now prescribed by my GP who doesn't know enough to manage this protocol. He has now referred me to DR Komer to review and monitor this. After hearing all the bad "reviews" of this Dr, I decided to lower my dosage every week until i see him but still report that I'm taking the 250mg/week. Hopefully this will keep me at the dose I'm on as this was determined through trying differnt dosages and figuring out what made me feel best. I also skip taking my prescribed Cyp while on cycle to build up a stockpile in the event it gets lowered on me.
 

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I've been using Dr prescribed TRT for 3 years now, started at 100mg/week and over a year went to 250mg/week. This puts me 3 points higher than the high point of "normal". The problem I'm having is this was prescribed by a pain Dr who stopped taking clients and is now prescribed by my GP who doesn't know enough to manage this protocol. He has now referred me to DR Komer to review and monitor this. After hearing all the bad "reviews" of this Dr, I decided to lower my dosage every week until i see him but still report that I'm taking the 250mg/week. Hopefully this will keep me at the dose I'm on as this was determined through trying differnt dosages and figuring out what made me feel best. I also skip taking my prescribed Cyp while on cycle to build up a stockpile in the event it gets lowered on me.

Are you on AIs? you should post blood/thread!
 
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Are you on AIs? you should post blood/thread!
No AI's regularly (i have some ugl Arimidex, I use once in a while if i feel tender nipples but that is not often) My GP does bloods when ever I ask but gives little feed back and I never get a copy of them. This is why I'm looking to see Komer.
 
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The results of 25mg/week are in - virtually unchanged lol.

I got bumped to 50mg every 10 days with more bloodwork coming in four weeks. This is going the way asashouryu said it might and I am ok with this.

My goal here is to get to a level where I can blast and cruise.
 
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Obviously a poor starting dose, even by gp standards.

This will likely be reflected in your bloodwork and should be upped considerably. Frustrating for sure...you will have to jumped in the slow increments based on the bloodwork untill you get your levels where they should be...

Be patient, many doctors won’t touch trt. But yes.. 50-100 mg a week is the general starting dose and is reassessed with follow up bloodwork and adjusted accordingly.....your starting dose is absurd.
 
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Thanks for the replies. One last question: How fucked would I be if I blasted to ~300ish and then tapered down to my now 35mg/week? Could I get away without a PCT at that dose?
 
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You wouldn’t need PCT if you are cruising.
25mg/week?
Lance Armstrong’s dead testicle produces that much.
Stick with the Dr like others have mentioned, but in the meantime do some more research and find a specialist?
 
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Thanks for the replies. One last question: How fucked would I be if I blasted to ~300ish and then tapered down to my now 35mg/week? Could I get away without a PCT at that dose?
I would strongly recommend for overall long term health and long term quality of life regarding replacement therapy you get your trt bloodwork completely sorted out before you even think of this. You don’t want to skew any bloodwork your doctor, who is already not well versed in trt, will be interpreting to get your prescription set.

In the future, I would recommends shorter esters...you never know when docs will spring bloodwork on you lol
 
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