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you cant go wrong with choline and inositol if your on AAS. what do you recommend must have supps while on gear?
depending on the how much gear you are taking - some of the supplements to consider:
1. Turmeric/Curcumin - good curcumin is better but if on a budget take 2 tablespoons of loose turmeric with 8 pepper corns and mix it with 1 tablespoon of EVOO and wash it down.
2. Astragalus - good for the immune system and kidney health.
3. Choline/Inositol (1000-1500 mg each per day)/Sam-e (minimum 400 or up to 800 mg per day), NAC (600 mg 1 o2 2 per day) - (especially if running an oral) if liver enzymes are raised I would also add R-ala. I don't take all these at the same time and often rotate liver protecting supps as this gets costly.
4. Ubiquinol and black seed oil (ubiquinol all the time - 200 mg to 400 mg, if your BP goes up hit it with black seed oil/nigella sativa 1000-2000 mg per day). Anyone who hasn't tried black seed oil for BP, suggest reading the literature and safety profile of this supplement.
5. Fibre is important but I get more than enough from my diet as I eat a lot of vegetables and fruit. I am extremely regular.
6. Fish oil - 3-5 grams combined EPA/DPA minimum per day. Depending on age, lipids, BP - you may need up to 10 grams. My BP is in the ideal range so I don't take fish oil but have it on hand in case I need it. I don't run a lot of gear.
7. If you have any digestive issues, we all know the importance of digestion so probiotics. I use HMF 50 billion thanks to the recommendation made by friend, Bigtuna84.
8. Vitamin c - 2-5 grams per day and vitamin D - 5 grams per day.
One of the biggest keys is keeping your glutathione normal to high with NAC and Sam-e. Gluthathione in oral form has terrible bioavailability but NAC and SAM-e are precursors. You may be fine with just one like NAC as SAM-e is expensive.
Same with a multi vitamin - if you look at 'what did you eat today', I do my best to get a wide variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, etc. to ensure I am getting enough vitamins and minerals. If you don't have a balanced diet, would be wise.

I have never had lipid issues but based on the recommendations of many wise people on this forum, citrus bergamot would be a wise addition. I'm sure I'm missing some like milk thistle which I use periodically but in general if you are going to hit gear hard, I would be reading on the suggestions in this post and the other suggestions.

If you can't sleep - Melatonin 5-10 mg per day, it also provides considerable liver protection and is one of the most potent antioxidants known. Much more so that vitamin c and e.
Anxiety - adaptogens like serenity formula from Natural factors.
General Health - apple cider vinegar 1 tablespoon twice a day in water. Sip slowly while relaxing or eating. Cheap and I drink daily.

We can all take a handfuls of pills and be broke from buying into too many supplements but most listed have evidence. For supplements on a budget, I could do another list as I have been there and need to watch my dollars. That being said, if you can afford gear and ancillaries, you should be able to afford supplements to help maintain your optimal health.

I have read dozens of natural medicine books but I am not a naturopath or nutritionist so take my comments/suggestions for what the are, just one person's opinion.
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So goldenrod, I ordered this 8oz bottle of Black Cumin seed oil(fully organic, cold pressed) 59 servings. Some of the benefits:
Black seed oil contains thymoquinone, which is an antioxidant and anti-inflammatory compound that may also have tumor-reducing properties.
People can ingest black seed oil in the form of capsules or apply it topically to benefit the skin.

I appreciate you eh! This stuff has so many benefits and I plan on using for skin too. I am huge on good skin. I currently use coconut/jojoba. This stuff is the real deal! Even shrinking tumors! Of course I will ingest it as well. Oi

Cheers !

Max
 

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So goldenrod, I ordered this 8oz bottle of Black Cumin seed oil(fully organic, cold pressed) 59 servings. Some of the benefits:
Black seed oil contains thymoquinone, which is an antioxidant and anti-inflammatory compound that may also have tumor-reducing properties.
People can ingest black seed oil in the form of capsules or apply it topically to benefit the skin.

I appreciate you eh! This stuff has so many benefits and I plan on using for skin too. I am huge on good skin. I currently use coconut/jojoba. This stuff is the real deal! Even shrinking tumors! Of course I will ingest it as well. Oi

Cheers !

Max
Hi @Max, yes it is one of the, not so well known, supplements out there with some amazing properties for BP, inflammation, immune system boosting properties, etc. There are a lot of studies on this product, especially with blood pressure.
 

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I take a laundry list of supplements, but recently found these "full spectrum" powders which are much more convenient than standard powders or pills to add to my shakes for my Turmeric, Ginger and Cinnamon additions.. all have their own amazing benefits, but now I only have to add a 1/4 teaspoon to a shake which you cannot taste at all. 1/4 teaspoon of the full spectrum ginger is = to 40 GRAMS of fresh ginger!

Great price, easy to take, staple for me now.
 

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Picked up some webber k2+d3. No experience with k2 but I usually take 5000 IU d3 which would mean 600mcg of k2 if I were to take enough of this multivit to get my usual d3 dosage? Is that high dosage of k2 fine?
 

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I thought taking fish oil n omega 3 thins the blood??? I need add tumeric for inflamation!!
Yes, fish oil does thin the blood and helps with BP. The main ingredient in turmeric that helps with inflammation is curcumin which has a poor oral bioavailability which is why I use injectable INNO Curcu-Ject or ensure I take a lot of piperine with the oral versions.
Natural Factors Theracurmin claims to be the best absorbed oral versaion but keep in mind they did the study themselves.
 
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Little bump just to throw up my stack. Too many people neglect health based supps in this game.

1000mg curcumin, 3000mg astragalus, 1000mg NAC, 10mg cialis, 1500mg berberine, K2/D3, 200mg Q10, 1000mg IP6, 200mg grape seed extract, 200mg magnesium chelate, 3000mg fish oil, 1000mg VC, 400IU VE, Psyllium and a couple tbsp of cinnamon mixed into things.

Also some other things like a multi, extra calcium, etc. I would like to add 1000mg of citrus bergamot at some point.
 

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Are the omega oils that most retailers carry higher in the fat we already get an okay amount of and less of the one we are deficient in? Out of the 3, 6 and 9? Is it just the 3 most people are needing?
 

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You should be getting all three in your diet for optimal health but Omega 3's are often the hardest to get (depending on your diet) and often are the most expensive in supplements and the most important. If you eat oily fish and nuts which are my favorite sources, you get lots of Omega 3.
A quality fish oil product will list the Omega 3 content, the EPA and DHA content. Don't reach for the cheapest supplement, read the content in each pill or each teaspoon.

It is better to get your Omega 3 from food sources like salmon and walnuts but I still use Carleson's fish oil periodically.
 

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You should be getting all three in your diet for optimal health but Omega 3's are often the hardest to get (depending on your diet) and often are the most expensive in supplements and the most important. If you eat oily fish and nuts which are my favorite sources, you get lots of Omega 3.
A quality fish oil product will list the Omega 3 content, the EPA and DHA content. Don't reach for the cheapest supplement, read the content in each pill or each teaspoon.

It is better to get your Omega 3 from food sources like salmon and walnuts but I still use Carleson's fish oil periodically.
My sister and mom always believed and tried to preach Krill oil was the best and it was definitely the most expensive
 

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Anyone run Lisinopril or Telmisartan while on blast/cycle for keeping blood pressure down?
 

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20-30 minutes of steady state cardio seems to keep my BP in check even during a bulk. I am actually surprised at how much it helps. I feel a whole lot better too.
 

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My sister and mom always believed and tried to preach Krill oil was the best and it was definitely the most expensive
I don't know anything about krill oil. Have to read up on the benefits compared to regular fish oil.
 

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That's cool, thanks for sharing. You've done an excellent job, and it shows. This is very useful to know, but unfortunately, there is not always enough time to follow all this. I work very hard, and I just don't have time. I prefer to take supplements that contain everything necessary for health. I usually take supplements that are good for the heart, bones, and joints. As you know, with age, the body weakens, especially the heart and joints, and it is necessary to pay special attention to this. Because I take supplements, I do not worry about my health.

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