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Jericho

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... is an issue close to my heart, having suffered with depression and anxiety, and also having a brother who tried to take his own life 2 years ago.

Stress and lack of exercise is a trigger for me, and i notice the clouds start to form pretty quickly if i dont keep both under control. I had a bit of a relapse last weekend, after weeks of high stress and some anxiety, not training much, and I ultimately woke up last Saturday feeling depressed.

I'd read about the benefits mushrooms and certain mental health issues a while back, and ordered some online and mixed it in to some tea. I never had any hallucinations etc, but i pretty much spent a couple of hours laughing. The anxiety I was dealing with at the time disappeared completely, although I didn't think much of it.

Fast forward to last Saturday; weeks of anxiety, waking up with that depressed feeling, etc, so i took some shrooms again. Like before, i spent the evening laughing, but woke up the following day feeling back to normal again. No issues this week; the anxiety has gone, no sign of depression... all good.

I'm sharing this because i know there's a large connection between people who use gear and mental health issues; depression and anxiety in particular, so if you're struggling, one "dose" of mushrooms might be the answer.
There's lots of research on it, including an episode on the new Netflix documentary "the mind explained", but it's worth looking in to.
 

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People have shared their stories here from time to time. At one point even discussion over a sub forum for it was mulled over but ultimately decided against because it is such a weighted and serious issue. Personally I’ve talked about my ordeal with others and others have opened up too.
What I wanna caution you with is mind altering things like THC or mushrooms might offer a temp fix, once their effect wears off you’re left in the same spot. Or they could make your issue worse if it’s a chemical thing. things herbal nootropics or CBD seem a little less potent as far as mind or mood altering while still helping the anxiety.

Look into CBT or DBT. Talk to someone. Read more, surround yourself with positive motivators and aspirations - talk to people around you that experience it. I’m also struggling/failing/getting back up constantly. Low points, high points and rock bottom.

Keep fighting the good fight.
Sending you strength bro, positive vibes and hope
 
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I've had depression and anxiety my whole life
I feel my best when I'm on gear, I have no emotional issues
Life is more fun and I feel like I was always supposed to be this way, strong and confident
Not scared and worried
Just big, strong and happy.

-Pewbert
 
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I have suffered from depression and anxiety (not to mention an ED) since I was a kid. I'm on the mend (despite feeling down sometimes when people are mean to me or when I see how animals are treated. I found out that talking about it helps.
The best remedy for me is the gym and lots of cardio.

My motto: what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
 

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Battles depression when I destroyed my back, the medical heroin prescription only amplified it, then more prescription drugs for depression.
I kicked everything cold turkey - spent 2 days in the bathroom puking my guts out and crying in the tub.
Every day is a constant battle - but I keep myself super busy, and try not to dwell on small stuff.

“Don’t sweat the petty stuff, and don’t pet the sweaty stuff...”

Keep your head up and keep yourself busy - you will get through this
 

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There is a growing interest in the medicinal benefits of MDMA and Hallucinogens. Check out Tim Ferriss. He's really big on this.
Also, have you guys tried a bit of an elimination diet? I have come to believe that we are all, to a vastly varying degree gluten insensitive. Try giving up breads for a bit. See if it makes a difference. Of the 50 or so hormones we have in our bodies, almost all of them are directly affected by our stomachs. Our micro biome. I've read that people who have changed their diets have suffered less anxiety and or depression.
 
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This is true but only works if you address it. Which means more than shrugging it off sometimes.
Otherwise it’s “what doesn’t kill you now will stick with you and ruin you later”
Only my buddy @muscle_n_blood knows what I've been going through (health issues). It puts things into perspective, I take one day at a time and don't make plans.
 

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Empathy for anyone with anxiety or depression - haven’t experienced it myself (other than short term due to deaths, etc.) but many in my family have and it can be devastating. It is so important to look after your mental health so you can look after your physical health. Health is health but I hope what I’m trying to say is understandable. It wasn’t until a few family members got over their depression, they would start eating right and exercising.
@Jdave - you make excellent suggestions!
 

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Mental Health is a huge issue that most people won't seek help for because of the stigma attached. It's easy to see if somebody is physically injured but difficult to see if there's a mental injury. We really need to understand that a LOT of people suffer in silence and we really need to change the culture to be more supportive.

Empathy is Key, not sympathy. Words are important! If you notice a friend, family member or co-worker that may be suffering. A simple approach with words like "I've noticed a change, tell me how your feeling? OR "I'm concerned about you".

Imagine a parent telling their kid "You'll never amount to anything, you're useless, you're never going to succeed" versus a parent who is supportive;

"You can do anything you put your mind to, you're going to be successful and I'm proud of you"

Words are powerful. Be supportive and empathetic and hopefully we can make a few changes moving forward.
 

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Only my buddy @muscle_n_blood knows what I've been going through (health issues). It puts things into perspective, I take one day at a time and don't make plans.
I think from the picture thread a couple of us started to notice that you were going through something and were struggling with your own ordeals. Just meant that personally I’ve been guilty of shrugging things off and dismissing mental health in the past- not that you would imply that. Do you have a support system where you’re currently situated?
 

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Mental Health is a huge issue that most people won't seek help for because of the stigma attached. It's easy to see if somebody is physically injured but difficult to see if there's a mental injury. We really need to understand that a LOT of people suffer in silence and we really need to change the culture to be more supportive.

Empathy is Key, not sympathy. Words are important! If you notice a friend, family member or co-worker that may be suffering. A simple approach with words like "I've noticed a change, tell me how your feeling? OR "I'm concerned about you".

Imagine a parent telling their kid "You'll never amount to anything, you're useless, you're never going to succeed" versus a parent who is supportive;

"You can do anything you put your mind to, you're going to be successful and I'm proud of you"

Words are powerful. Be supportive and empathetic and hopefully we can make a few changes moving forward.
The way kids are raised is so important: it sets the most earliest and most permanent blue print for how they see, interpret and interact with the world. The behaviour they’re either punished for, the acts they’re rewarded for, basically however they've been taught how to handle the world by can be damn near impossible to break later in life. If a kid learns that yelling, insulting and hitting is how his parents get him or her to behave he will use that behaviour in the out side world. The brain is taking in and learning the most efficiently at that stage in development. It’s pretty much a blank slate. You’re so right about this the importance of raising kids with the right emotional tools along with all the others tools for success.

And that’s just the parts that affect nurture- there’s also individual chemical differences in all our brains too, the nature of who we are even without how we’re raised or our environmental interactions.
Mental health is way harder to tackle than a physical health
 
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I think from the picture thread a couple of us started to notice that you were going through something and were struggling with your own ordeals. Just meant that personally I’ve been guilty of shrugging things off and dismissing mental health in the past- not that you would imply that. Do you have a support system where you’re currently situated?
I don't need support from strangers. You guys are very supportive. I'm not depressed anymore but let's say that dealing with serious and unexpected health issues was tougher than I thought.
My volunteer work (being part of a team again) is really great and doing lots of cardio boosts the endorphins better than an anti depressant :)
 

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I don't need support from strangers. You guys are very supportive. I'm not depressed anymore but let's say that dealing with serious and unexpected health issues was tougher than I thought.
My volunteer work (being part of a team again) is really great and doing lots of cardio boosts the endorphins better than an anti depressant :)
This is awesome MG. Keep it up!
 

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ive had anxiety since a kid at home! parents just went work that it no support!! got beat with a belt buckle!! dad was a drinker!! got violent at times he drank to much n pissed him off! threw the years I sucked it up with drugs n hard work n the gym!! I can tell when I dont feel right n bring it under control after all these years!! music supplements workouts have it under control I do get depressed as fuk at times!!
 

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Depression and anxiety have been apart of my life since I was a kid. Yea you can take pills, they can take the edge off or make things slightly more bearable but at what cost. Your soul? I became a different person(from sex drive to sense of humour and everything in between) and I didn’t like it. I realized hey maybe it’s not what’s wrong with me maybe what’s wrong with this fucking system, what’s wrong with you fucking people? And in even broader terms what’s wrong with the human race. Are we all just after the next dopamine hit do we can get that validation to procreate? (Most likely). This is my madness, I become numb to it but it can only last so long. I think we are all looking for that solution. I really think that most people in the western world live their days trying to find another way, hoping for another way. Deep down, knowing that there has to be something more? Is this it? And you think and think and try to figure it out and in the end all you come up with is everything really this meaningless? Then 50 years from now. We are all gone. So what’s the point. Lately I’ve been batting this and it’s like fuck it let’s blast 2.5g of test and see what fucking happens
 

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Yes Testbear. Say it. Get it out. All of you. Say that shit thats on your mind. If it’s troubling you, put it out there.
I don’t have answers for you. Maybe no one does. Maybe the system is messed up. And people are messed up. And maybe it doesn’t seem like there’s rhyme or reason.
But we’re here. And that’s a good thing. Even if we don’t always see it or believe it. So let’s not say fuck it and go overboard. Let’s play it out. Maybe that purpose just hasn’t been revealed yet. Maybe we just need to keep our wits about us long enough to recognize it when it shows up. And be strong enough to grab a hold of it.
Get it out so it doesn’t fester. Give it life so you can decide if it’s a good thought or a bad thought.
Wtf do I know? I don’t know any of you. I do know we all have those thoughts. Those days. I know it’s worse for some than others. But you’re not alone. I’m not an expert. I’m no one. If any of you need a no one to vent to I’ll listen. Send me a msg. Or keep shouting it out here.
 
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When I had anorexia I was referred to a psychiatrist (specialist in ED). I wasn't feeling at ease talking to a perfect stranger who told me immediately "you'd better start eating again or I'll have you admitted and force fed. Creep.
I'd rather talk to one of you even if it means that you will think I'm a nutcase :(
 
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