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Cumminstech2

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I haven't had any sides at all with Pharma GH, but the Riptropins that gave me the highest GH levels to IU used ratio of any GH I've used, made me hold like 10lbs of water and jacked my BP through the roof.

I don't really understand it. The rips were tested back then and came back as legit 191aa. Who really knows.
I have a theory that it has a lot to do with the PH of the GH as well. It isn’t much more than a theory right now, but I have talked with a university professor of pharmacuetical engineering at one of the largest schools in Canada about this. He said PH levels of pharmacueticals play a huge factor, but GH is pretty niche and he could not confirm it plays the same roll. What he did say was that if eating acidic or alkaline foods can throw off your digestion (shits, heart burn, etc) then why couldn’t injecting acidic or alkaline hormones effect your endocrine system and how your body reacts to and with the exogenous hormone.

almost all the pharmacuetical companies include the PH level of their GH in their testing. For example, genotropin is listed at 6.7, humatropes are listed at 7.5, etc etc. If this played absolutely no factor, I couldn’t see almost all of the pharmacuetical companies including it and publicly listing it for their product. Yet the only thing that we test our UGL growth for is usually dimer and purity.

I bought some PH test strips on Amazon and just got received them in the mail, I will test the PH of Opti grey tops when I get home and follow through with this theory. I call it a theory but I feel it’s stronger than just a theory, because probably one of the most intelligent people I could talk to is the one who explained this to me and told me that it works this way with almost every other pharmacy product, so why would GH be different?

 
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Figured I’d throw this out there for
conversation sake , a close friend had pituary gland tumour. His IGF1 went thru the fuckint roof , at the highest it was 980+ few days before he had surgery. He had terrible carpel tunnel / edema in hands feet , terrible sleep patterns , developed sleep apnea. The specialist told him high IGF1 tends to always be followed with edema / carpel tunnel from the cases he dealt with , which is usually 20 surgery's a month.
 

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I have a theory that it has a lot to do with the PH of the GH as well. It isn’t much more than a theory right now, but I have talked with a university professor of pharmacuetical engineering at one of the largest schools in Canada about this. He said PH levels of pharmacueticals play a huge factor, but GH is pretty niche and he could not confirm it plays the same roll. What he did say was that if eating acidic or alkaline foods can throw off your digestion (shits, heart burn, etc) then why couldn’t injecting acidic or alkaline hormones effect your endocrine system and how your body reacts to and with the exogenous hormone.

almost all the pharmacuetical companies include the PH level of their GH in their testing. For example, genotropin is listed at 6.7, humatropes are listed at 7.5, etc etc. If this played absolutely no factor, I couldn’t see almost all of the pharmacuetical companies including it and publicly listing it for their product. Yet the only thing that we test our UGL growth for is usually dimer and purity.

I bought some PH test strips on Amazon and just got received them in the mail, I will test the PH of Opti grey tops when I get home and follow through with this theory. I call it a theory but I feel it’s stronger than just a theory, because probably one of the most intelligent people I could talk to is the one who explained this to me and told me that it works this way with almost every other pharmacy product, so why would GH be different?

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Here is PH testing for Optis greys if anyone was curious for the update. Hard to tell from the pic but it was slightly darker than an 8 but not quite as dark as 9.

If anyone knows this area well, feel free to add. I am by no means claiming to be an expert, just trying to figure things out the best I can :)
 

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So big win for me yesterday, I hide my steroid use from my gf that I live with but yesterday I told her I got HGH for anti-aging purpose lol she didn’t freak out which was a relief as I need to refrigerate it.

2nd thingI got 4 kits of black tops which are from the provider batch 90, this batch has no postedlab results yet but 2 previous black top tests were 16 and 20ius per vial. The black tops are apparently always 15iu+ per vial.

so I guess I should work off that assumption for dosing. Anyone using the provider right now? I have used riptropin in in the past from him.
The top signify nothing you just need a crimper to get off and put on and hgh the compagny always did in 5ui and 10ui some test is false
 

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The top signify nothing you just need a crimper to get off and put on and hgh the compagny always did in 5ui and 10ui some test is false
The provider’s growth hormone has been around forever. There are other markings on the vials as well. The black tops from the provider have all tested at 15iu or more. There are many independent tests done on the provider ive never even seen any low lab results. I actually wouldn’t even bother with any other source personally unless I went pharm grade. If you have any information showing these black tops are in doubt please feel free to share it but it sounds like you have no basis for anything you are saying.
 

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The provider’s growth hormone has been around forever. There are other markings on the vials as well. The black tops from the provider have all tested at 15iu or more. There are many independent tests done on the provider ive never even seen any low lab results. I actually wouldn’t even bother with any other source personally unless I went pharm grade. If you have any information showing these black tops are in doubt please feel free to share it but it sounds like you have no basis for anything you are saying.
How you do for testing? I have acces to a lot of product for my consumption like pharma with script etc and the only test you can do for gh is if is gh on the vial not how many ui of gh have it
 

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How you do for testing? I have acces to a lot of product for my consumption like pharma with script etc and the only test you can do for gh is if is gh on the vial not how many ui of gh have it
I’m not the one testing, the products good and testing is posted on a major forum both by the manufacturer and independent users and the forum had even done testing as well. Feel free to find the forum I’ll just call it PM. I’m not here to sell anything so I don’t see the need to continue this pointless conversation.
 

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I’m not the one testing, the products good and testing is posted on a major forum both by the manufacturer and independent users and the forum had even done testing as well. Feel free to find the forum I’ll just call it PM. I’m not here to sell anything so I don’t see the need to continue this pointless conversation.
Underground gh some i have a lot bad issue it is why i daid that to you :)
 

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The providers vials have info etched on them. You should really listen more than talk sometimes, especially when you know Fuvk all about who the provider is and never used his product
All gh come from china china dont have any 15-20ui gh i saw a lot of fake test can confirm the only things you can see if your gh is good is a igf1 gh serum bloodwork
 

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All gh come from china china dont have any 15-20ui gh i saw a lot of fake test can confirm the only things you can see if your gh is good is a igf1 gh serum bloodwork
Which there are thousands of for that particular brand over a span of many years now. I guess those are fake too 😂
 

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All gh come from china china dont have any 15-20ui gh i saw a lot of fake test can confirm the only things you can see if your gh is good is a igf1 gh serum bloodwork
I know of people who I trust who have done serum testing where there results were higher than 10iu of pharm grade hgh. You clearly don’t even know who the provider is. I am aware of fake hgh and that’s the reason I like using the provider. Tons of people have done serum testing throughout the years on random batches and I have never even seen a slightly low result. What I know is that the provider is the best dollar value for hgh on the market. If you can afford pharm grade then go for it but this is the next best thing period.
 
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