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Non - Pharmaceutical methods to increase testosterone production post cycle (Testosterone - E)

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Hey everyone. I'm 52 years old. I've been lifting for years. I've always been natural. In May of last year I decided I'd try a cycle of Testosterone - E. I started with a fairly low dose - 250mg every two weeks. I did this for a couple of injections and then started experiencing the increased estrogen sides (gyno'ish, bloating, etc...). I decided i didn't want to continue so after researching a bit i decided to taper off, which i did. I know now that that probably wasn't the best idea. So here I am, months later. My Testosterone isn't where it should be. I can tell by the lack of energy, low libido and blood work values. The fact that i can pop a cialis or viagara with no effect is also a tell tale sign. So, has anybody had any success naturally kicking test production into gear after using exogenous testosterone? Any proven techniques, supplements anything that can help?....I didn't use a PCT. My cycle was so short and low that from all i read it wouldn't be necessary. I realize now that i probably should have. Thanks in advance.
 

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I’m not sure why you started a whole new thread about this? I suspect you didn’t like what I had to say on your other thread.
why do you think starting a new thread will make the answers any different?

there is NO WAY to increase testosterone “naturally”.

there is a proven, slight increase from lifting heavy. But it only lasts a few hours.

Other than that - I suggest you lower your red meat consumption, (or all meat, dairy and eggs entirely) as this will cause an immediate decrease in serum cholesterol levels (and is good for your heart in general)

There are other “home remedies” purported to raise testosterone like eating pumpkin seeds, oysters (or just supplementing with zinc) but honestly, none of these really work.

your best bet is to do a PCT now, better late than never. Get some HCG you’d be amazed at what it does to your boys! follow a protocol. (Lots of guys use either clomid and nolva or just one or e other)
Or just give it time for your body to get back to your old baseline.

trust me. I searched for YEARS for “natural” ways to increase testosterone in my system. It. Does. Not. Exist.
At 40 - I had hoped I could avoid TrT, sadly - just not the case.
 

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I haven't been on here for a long time and I'm glad Dr J's old site still has traffic :)

You're right in saying tapering off after a "couple shots" of a very low dose of Test E was a mistake. Unless you dragged out the tapering for months it wouldn't affect anything so I'm thinking your biggest problem is mortality, you're 52 years old. Once you're going into your 40s the difference between natural and enhanced is way more apparent and you really have to do your research and pre-plan the cycle beginning to end, do your research and afterwards you'll realize 2 shots of 250mg two weeks apart is nothing to worry about :)
 

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test boosters are a waste. If your not going to PCT - then the only way I know to get your test up is to take testosterone.
Good luck
GR
 

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I’m not sure why you started a whole new thread about this? I suspect you didn’t like what I had to say on your other thread.
why do you think starting a new thread will make the answers any different?

there is NO WAY to increase testosterone “naturally”.

there is a proven, slight increase from lifting heavy. But it only lasts a few hours.

Other than that - I suggest you lower your red meat consumption, (or all meat, dairy and eggs entirely) as this will cause an immediate decrease in serum cholesterol levels (and is good for your heart in general)

There are other “home remedies” purported to raise testosterone like eating pumpkin seeds, oysters (or just supplementing with zinc) but honestly, none of these really work.

your best bet is to do a PCT now, better late than never. Get some HCG you’d be amazed at what it does to your boys! follow a protocol. (Lots of guys use either clomid and nolva or just one or e other)
Or just give it time for your body to get back to your old baseline.

trust me. I searched for YEARS for “natural” ways to increase testosterone in my system. It. Does. Not. Exist.
At 40 - I had hoped I could avoid TrT, sadly - just not the case.
Hey, It was not my intent to disrespect you man...I completely value the info you gave on the other thread. I was hoping you’d chime in. I thought another thread under another heading would draw other opinions as well. Trust me. The information I’ve received on the site has been incredibly valuable. So happy I’ve found it.
 

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Scally PCT.
Im the same age as you and didnt start cycling until 49. It was the only thing that got my boys back to work. In my opinion there is no other option.
 

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Thanks...my doc is a goof...has no idea...I hate to start just putting pharmaceuticals into me with no professional supervision...that’s what got me in to this mess in the first place...I requested a new doc...have an app on the 22nd...hopefully this guy will have more of an idea...
Changing the subject a bit...but has anyone ever experienced a rash...itchy...back of both shoulders...both flanks...started shortly after I stopped the test...comes and goes...I suspect it’s to do with estrogen imbalance...my doc wouldn’t even look at it...hence “goof”
 

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Thanks...my doc is a goof...has no idea...I hate to start just putting pharmaceuticals into me with no professional supervision...that’s what got me in to this mess in the first place...I requested a new doc...have an app on the 22nd...hopefully this guy will have more of an idea...
Changing the subject a bit...but has anyone ever experienced a rash...itchy...back of both shoulders...both flanks...started shortly after I stopped the test...comes and goes...I suspect it’s to do with estrogen imbalance...my doc wouldn’t even look at it...hence “goof”
You have a rash and the doctor wouldn't even look at it to tell you what it was? Fuck me - that is awful and against their oath. Smart to get another doc - good lick bud!
GR
 

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Do you have recent bloodwork you can post? I’m curious to see the numbers. What’s your body fat percentage? Stress? There are definitely natural ways to increase it depending on YOU. I’m not saying supplements, but maybe a few adjustments in life might help some. The fact is, in Canada it’s hard enough to get a doctor these day’s and it makes it very hard to find one knowledgeable in male hormones it’s frustrating. The rash you’re referring to could simply be acne from hormone fluctuations, at the same time it could be completely unrelated.
 
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