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Pewbert

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Hello PacMan



I have a question about tren and gyno

I plan on running tren for an 8wk blast as follows per wk

test p 140mg

tren a 350mg

mast p 500mg

Daily injections

I plan on running Caber .5mg 2x per wk

To prevent prolactin issues like gyno and libido

Do you think an AI mite be needed? I am sensitive to estrogen

What else can I do to prevent gyno

Thank you Brother


-Pewbert
 

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Hello Pac,

So I've been planning/tinkering with my upcoming Insane Blast and Cruise (as per my thread) for the last several months. I've got the final pieces of the puzzle (Primo) and maybe I've just been overthinking this thing WAY too long and I almost want to go back to the drawing board. The Goal is Recomp. The Arsenal is Test ACE, PROP, SUSPENSION, SUSTANON, T400, CYP, EQ, Primo, Mast E, Mast P, Tren ACE, TrenE, Deca, NPP, Anavar, Winstrol, T3. Getting overwhelmed and just thinking Ive gotten way to many moving pieces here. My instincts are telling me to blast the hell out of everything but I'm really trying not to just do that.
 

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Hello Pac,

So I've been planning/tinkering with my upcoming Insane Blast and Cruise (as per my thread) for the last several months. I've got the final pieces of the puzzle (Primo) and maybe I've just been overthinking this thing WAY too long and I almost want to go back to the drawing board. The Goal is Recomp. The Arsenal is Test ACE, PROP, SUSPENSION, SUSTANON, T400, CYP, EQ, Primo, Mast E, Mast P, Tren ACE, TrenE, Deca, NPP, Anavar, Winstrol, T3. Getting overwhelmed and just thinking Ive gotten way to many moving pieces here. My instincts are telling me to blast the hell out of everything but I'm really trying not to just do that.
I sent you an email my friend. Too many puzzle pieces here man, we need to create a plan...

- PacMan
 

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First of all I wish I found this forum months ago. The knowledge and advice on here is amazing. Last may I decided to try testosterone for the first time. I’m 52, in shape, been throwing weights around for years, always been natural. I researched things (not enough obviously) and settled on 250mg test-e every two weeks. Did that twice, noticed elevated estrogen symptoms, gyno being the prominent one, and decided to stop. Instead of just stopping I tapered the dose by half every two weeks til I was done (another poor decision I’ve been living with). I never did a pct as I thought my cycle was low enough and quick enough that I wouldn’t need it. The first few months after I stopped I was just experiencing the gyno symptoms. Libido was still raging. Still good energy in the gym...etc...it’s just been the last 3 weeks or so that I feel like things aren’t working. No libido...energy down...still gyno symptoms coming and going...I can pop a viagara or cialis with absolutely no effect...the incredible knowledge on this forum has directed me to the fact that I should have done a pct. I’ve ordered and am waiting for Nolvadex and Clomid. Do I take these simultaneously or one after another? Do I take them until symptoms subside or for a specific amount of time?
Also if I was just to say screw it and start test again at a low weekly dose (75-100mg) would my symptoms subside?

thanks

here are my latest bloodwork numbers fyi

estradiol serum - 112 pmol/l normal - less than 162pmol/l
...prolactin 6.8ng/ml - normal 3.5 - 19.4
...TSH - 1.233 - normal - 0.350 - 4.940 mIU/L

No flags in the CBC/Diff

Testo - 19.3 nmol/l - - - normal range is 9.5 - 30.0
Sex horm - 51.8 nmol/l - - - normal range is 11.0 - 50.0
Testo, bioavail - 7.5 nmol/l - - - normal range is 4.8 - 14.0
Thanks again
 

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Take HCG at this point, have you done this? take the whole bottle (5000iu), every 4 days. Do this for 5 bottles and see where you are at.

Do not bother with Nolva or Clomid, try the HCG first.

75-100mg of Test is going to do nothing!! After doing the HCG go back to running TRT at 150mg / week...

- PacMan
 

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Thanks, just a question...would this not amplify the already present gynecomastia symptoms? I’ve read that one of the predominant side effects of Hcg is gynocomastia. I have an appointment this week to speak with a new doc, redo bloods, etc...will definitely mention this approach. Thanks.
 

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To be honest, I do not listen too 2 shits what doctors say! They have zero clue what they are talking about for the most part.

HCG is not going to increase your gyno. If you are worried about it, get it cut out?

- PacMan
 

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This is a very vague post @shooter
A trainer will consider many things while creating a cycle, diet, and training program. For the few bucks a month it costs to hire an online coach, I highly recommend getting in touch with @PacMan as he will surely help you reach your goals.
 

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