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Rehab log for nagging injuries - GH, peptides, and test/nandrolone

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I have several injuries - go to a rehab trainer, significant rest, massage, chiro, tried collagen, msm, and changed my workout routine all with limited success. The rehab did help my knee but only so far.
I am running a test to see if I can get over the issues.
I have a left pectoral muscle injury that prevent any chest work - even with slow progression with my rehab physiotherapist - no go. It does not prevent other upper body exercises.
A pulled left bicep that has been nagging me for a month. I can do light training but have to be careful.
My right knee has a partially torn meniscus but though considerable rehab, I am doing 6 sets of body weight squats 50 reps, balance exercises, other boring exercises like bridges, etc. Every second day. It is getting better but I have plateaued and I’m in pain to some degree.
I have a slight left groin pull that is nagging but nothing major.
Both Achilles’ tendons are 80-90% better but they were awful for a long time.
I’m a guy who has been lifting for 30 years with limited gear use compared to most here. My health is more important than anything so I monitored my blood carefully when I add anything in. I have the wear and tear of a typical older lifter.
Some will laugh at the dosages I use as they are a fraction of what others recommend but I always start low and see how it goes.

I am going to do the following:
1. National Capital Research Peptides BPC157 10mg Vial - bought 5 and will run 250 twice a day into two injury sites at a time. Right now I am concentrating on my bicep and chest. This product is provided by a close personal/trusted friend and at this time the peptides are not being sold to the public.
Same company - will be ordering TB500 Shortly but for now won’t be using it. When I add it, I will update.
I am on TRT - Test enanthate 100 mg a week and making excellent gains as my test was very low.
Just purchased INNO nandrolone decanoate - 150 mg per week. (My dosages are always less than the average BB as my goals are different and I’m older and cautious.
I have INNO oxandolone as well but am not going to use it for now.
I recently started Serono serostim prescription GH - 1.5 IU’s a day.
That’s it.
My Bac water should arrive tomorrow so I will start tomorrow.
I’m not sure how to do a proper log so I apologize if this is scattered or not clear. Questions welcomed.
 
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You sound like me, I have so many ongoing injuries. It is all part of the game, and you find a way or treatment to help you get through it. I am curious to hear how your regimen helps and your feedback.
 

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You sound like me, I have so many ongoing injuries. It is all part of the game, and you find a way or treatment to help you get through it. I am curious to hear how your regimen helps and your feedback.
Thanks @rhynoplanet - will try to update weekly. I keep my own log and routine, diet, physio/etc., what I’m taking and progress or step backs. Fingers crossed as I’m getting tired of changing my routines to deal with my issue lol
 

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I hear you on this one my friend, injuries and nagging pains are all part of the game. I am bloody sore all the time, especially now 6 weeks out from a show. Joints are dry ASF, and knees feel like they are going to cave in every time I walk.

Only thing I can suggest is massage therapy at least once per week, stretching, icing, taking the right supplementation. And listen to your body when training. I train 2 on, 1 off and seems to help with the recovery...

- PacMan
 

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I hear you on this one my friend, injuries and nagging pains are all part of the game. I am bloody sore all the time, especially now 6 weeks out from a show. Joints are dry ASF, and knees feel like they are going to cave in every time I walk.

Only thing I can suggest is massage therapy at least once per week, stretching, icing, taking the right supplementation. And listen to your body when training. I train 2 on, 1 off and seems to help with the recovery...

- PacMan
Thanks for the info @PacMan - I changed to one day on and one day off (reluctantly for upper body) about 6 months ago as I can no longer can workout through the pain. I just get a chronic injury so if I feel a ‘bad pain’ I walk away from my workout as the fallout isn’t worth it. I dropped exercises that I know aggravate issues.

I am a nazi with my supplements but didn’t want to bore people with the long list. I take a considerable number of supplements for inflammation and general antioxidant protection. I take prophylactic MSM/glu/choindroiten but have never found they do anything. I tried collagen for 6 months too - nothing.

I stretch for 15 minutes everyday, I am rehabbing my right knee and training high volume / no weight EOD which forces me to train one upper body part every second day.
I forgot about massage and ice but I have 4 gel packs in the freezer from the past - I have coverage but haven’t gone for one in a long time. The massage my rehab physiotherapist does on my chest is torture - a metal instrument pressed and moved around to break up scar tissue.
Any suggestions on supplements?
 

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I'm behind you on this one and planning a very similar approach for nagging soft tissue problems I'm both shoulders.
I have my Bpc157 in hand but decided to start GH for a few months to build levels then hit the BPC157 for 6 weeks, then hopefully flow into a cycle this winter. Continue GH for 9mos to a year.

I'll be watching your progress closely!
 

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I'm behind you on this one and planning a very similar approach for nagging soft tissue problems I'm both shoulders.
I have my Bpc157 in hand but decided to start GH for a few months to build levels then hit the BPC157 for 6 weeks, then hopefully flow into a cycle this winter. Continue GH for 9mos to a year.

I'll be watching your progress closely!
That’s @DeeCee - there are a lot of suffering from injuries that won’t go away even after rest, rehab, etc. Especially for old farts like myself.
I should have added to my original post - I stretch 15-25 minutes everyday before I touch a weight and on off days, essential to keep the flexibility for healing. I also have a good foam roller and use it every second day at home for my chest and leg(knee), I also use a hard ball for rolling on my chest and bicep. The forum roller helped my knee a lot.
 

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Yeah I've been in and out of physio for years, stretch as well and yoga plus strengthening exercises. My problem is consistency I find it hard to fit all that in with weight training and family/work life. I had poor posture for years resulting in inward rotating scapulas. Ultrasound and x-rays recently showed no major damage though so I'm really hoping to buckle down and finally get them back to at least 80 percent.
 

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Just an update - bac water was late getting here so starting the BPC tonight. Will be using 500 mcg’s twice a day for two injuries sites. This is based on the math I read in a few studies of 10 mcg per kg of body weight.
I have been on 1-1.5 iu’s Of GH since August 20th and just increased it to 2 IU’s first thing in the morning.

I still stretch everyday for 15 minutes, foam rolling, lowered my weights to give my body some resistance but not overdue it. My knee is getting stronger and my left groin pull is getting better too. My left pec and left bicep are still sore hence the two areas I will starting the BPC with.

I hope to see some improvement soon.
 

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No issues with 150 mg of nandrolone so increasing to to 200 mg per week.
 

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On GH for 1 month now, started at 1 IU and upped by .5 iu per week and now on 2.5 which is my ceiling. I will run this for 6 months minimum.
500 mcg’s of NCRP in bicep and chest/ribs area twice a day.
INNO Test en (75-100 mg) and now INNO nandrolone 200 mg per week.
Foam rolls and stretching for 15-30 minutes per day.
Taking collagen supplements, vitamin c, e, d, Sam-e, fish oil, co-enzyme q10, betaine, probiotics, ginger, turmeric and black pepper.
I eat well and won’t list everything but get 150 grams of protein and I’m 215 pounds. Eat three balanced meals, one protein drink after training and a snack before bed - Greek yogurt, protein bar or walnuts.
I lowered all my weights by 50% as I keep a workout log and each time I run a successful workout without too much pain or the pain subsides quickly after, I will add 5 lbs the following workout.
Train legs and abs EOD because I am doing volume/body weight exercises / no added weight to squats, etc. Train my upper body EOD - shoulders, back, biceps/triceps/forearms, and starting very light chest presses - broom stick style lol.
My Achilles’ tendons are 100% at this time. No pain during or after exercises.
Left groin - same as Achilles. No pain during or after.
Left bicep - mild discomfort while exercising back and biceps but subsides after icing.
Chest - can’t make any real comments as I am only moving 5-10 lbs but no discomfort.

I ordered enough TB500 to use for two months and should be here next week. Same brand.
No miracles yet as it’s only been a month for GH, and 10 days for Nandrolone and test, and 6 days for BPC. That being said - I’m optimistic.
Keep in mind I tried the reduction of weight and slowly add more to build up which failure in the past.
Any suggestion/comments are always welcomed.
Per @PacMan suggestion - booking a massage each week.
Have a nice weekend - GR
 

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Morning:
Picked up TB500 and will be aiming for approx 10 mg per week. I decided to go with 1.5 a day for now. I started tb500 4 days ago.
Still 500 mcg of BPC in chest and bicep.
No change in test, GH or nandolone.
I was about to post incredible progress in almost all injuries but I did hurt my left bicep two days ago - just picked up a dumbbell and it felt weird.
That being said - still pushing through and my bicep feels much better today than it did two days ago.
I’m doing light chest presses and no pain yet, knee still hurts a bit but I’m not sure anything will fix that beside surgery but my legs are getting stronger and growing.
I’m impressed with the BPC so far, TB - too early to tell.
 

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I did an arms workout Sunday and back workout today - nothing foolish but slow progress. My bicep is better today than it was prior to tweaking it last Thursday.
Whatever I am doing/taking is working and I’ve been trying a lot up to now. The peptides are definitely helping.
My chest is still an enigma - I am slowly adding weight and doing floor dumbbell presses which are as much tricep and upper chest as overall chest but I am not in any pain (for the first time since I can remember when I train chest). I haven’t trained chest for more than a few workouts in months and giving up until now.
I am starting with 10 lbs dumbbells and doing a set of 10, next day a set of 20, next day a set of 25, then going to 20 lbs and repeat. Sound like nothing and it is but this would be aggravating me to the degree I would have to stop before.
Same foam rolling, same TRT, same nandrolone, and same GH.

My weight has jumped from 215 to 225, my legs are growing and my clothes are tighter. This was not the plan.

Still stretching everyday - one upper body part a day and legs every second day. I can do volume training for my legs/more often as I’m not using weights but today I held 20lbs dumbbells in each hand doing deep squats and no issues so that is progress.

I’m sure it is the nandrolone but I have some degenerative disk in my back and neck and the pain is all but gone.
So the message is I’m cautiously optimistic and I am convinced the peptides are the best I tried.
Will give it another week and see how I feel.
Cheers GR
 

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Update since it’s been about a week.
Total give or take a few days I have been on 150-200 of nandolone for 25 days, few months TRT, 2 weeks TB500, and a month BPC157. Approx 1 month and three weeks on GH - started at 1 and at 2 IU’s a day. Still at 2.
For the peptides time period I only refer to NCRP as I tried two other brands in the past.
My forearm tendonitis is completely gone.
My strained Achilles’ tendons are 100%.
Left groin pull is 100% and I am pushing legs harder all the time. Not harder by many standards but doing parallel squats holding dumbbells for high repel. My legs are growing,
I’m scared to say it but my knee is much better - good days I don’t notice it, bad days just an annoyance but in no way am I saying it is fully healed.
My left bicep does not hurt at all - I am able to do light, volume work for my back and biceps without a step back since I tweaked it lifting a dumbbell weeks ago on the 26th. I will continue to add small amounts of weight and reps and hope to progress.
My chest is a struggle and I’m going slow - presses with 10 lbs for 25 reps and up to 30lbs. I can feel a little pain but it is better the next day and I always ice it afterwards. In the past, it was not better the following day.
So - this has been a success to me. I have a long way to go but I’m very pleased with my progress. Adding reps, more weight and exercises.
Either it is a fluke of these peptides kick ass. I do take TB500 daily as previously mentioned and now that I have been on it for a while I take 1000 mcg’s a day (down from 1500). I used others and I will admit I was told you did not have to refrigerate BP157 when mixed if you used it in 10 days, I learned different and now refrigerate. I always used TB500 when I mixed it because they came in 2 mg. NCRP comes in 10 mg so I refrigerate.
I have neck and back pain as I have degenerative disk disease as well and it has been great.
I hope I didn’t just fuck myself by stating this and karma kicks me in the ass and an injury flares up.

I will run GH for 6-12 months minimum, Nandrolone for 8-12 weeks, Tb for 60 days and most likely BPC indefinitely based on the other benefits I am getting from it.
Cheers GR
 
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Update - chest is definitely healing as well. Per my previous comments, as per my physiotherapist, I start with 3 lbs dumbbells, to 6, to 10, t0 20, 25 , 30 etc. One set of each - first run through is 5 reps, every day add 5 reps, and when I hit 25 go up in weight.
I’ve tried this before unsuccessfully but I’ve noticed I’m at my 30’s and doing 20 and now 25 reps and no discomfort during or after.
It really sucks being able to train shoulders and triceps properly, legs - body weight and just adding some dumbbell weight, reduced bicep and back workout, and no chest workouts.
All this being said - I’ve added 15 lbs of muscle running this. No doubt as I never run more than one compound and I am on a small amount of TRT enanthate, 150-200 Nandrolone, and 2 IU’s of GH.

As my knee is getting better, I am now walking the loop outback before my workout which takes 10 minutes when I walk fast, not much to brag about but prior too much pain.
If I’m able to get some decent cardio with walking, train chest, add weight for squats, the last of this ‘cycle’ I expect to see gains.
Just a quick update - when these things occur, I feel I should share.
 
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Glad to hear positive feedback on your choice of healing products. I have a training partner that has degenerative disk disease and is going in soon to have a few disks removed from his neck and replaced with a non screw in disk. He plays rugby and jiu jitsu. Hes pretty excited to get this delt with. Hope your recovery put you where you wanna be. Injuries suck. I popped my ankle and it took three years to heal completely.
 

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I thought i was in rough shape. You have a lot to deal with. Hope it works out for you. Nothing worse then injuries cramping ones lifestyle.

I gave up pressing all together. Both chest and overhead for shoulders. There are so many alternatives to choose from if you are training for hypertrophy.
 

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Continuing to progress on a work-out basis. Did a light chest ‘Rehab’ workout with no issues and upright rows (as part of my normal routine) with no bicep pain. These both, not long ago, would have caused pain and I would have to stop.
I can’t express how happy I am with the peps and progress.
 

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Leg work out yesterday - high volume squats (50 reps BW) and now holding dumbbells doing the same 25 reps. Since adding weight, I cut down from 50-25 reps. I also gained 15 plus pounds over the past few months of muscle.
No knee pain, no Achilles pain, and I want to find a rack and start doing squats but I won’t. Same steady progress of 5 reps more each workout until I hit 25 reps and then up each dumbbell by 5lbs. Frustratingly slow but beats nit being able to workout or being in pain walking around.
Very pleased with results.
 
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