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Rehab log for nagging injuries - GH, peptides, and test/nandrolone

Goldenrod

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I several injuries - go to a rehab trainer, significant rest, massage, chiro, tried collagen, msm, and changed my workout routine all with limited success. The rehab did help my knee but only so far.
I am running a test to see if I can get over the issues.
I have a left pectoral muscle injury that prevent any chest work - even with slow progression with my rehab physiotherapist - no go. It does not prevent other upper body exercises.
A pulled left bicep that has been nagging me for a month. I can do light training but have to be careful.
My right knee has a partially torn meniscus but though considerable rehab, I am doing 6 sets of body weight squats 50 reps, balance exercises, other boring exercises like bridges, etc. Every second day. It is getting better but I have plateaued and I’m in pain to some degree.
I have a slight left groin pull that is nagging but nothing major.
Both Achilles’ tendons are 80-90% better but they were awful for a long time.
I’m a guy who has been lifting for 30 years with limited gear use compared to most here. My health is more important than anything so I monitored my blood carefully when I add anything in. I have the wear and tear of a typical older lifter.
Some will laugh at the dosages I use as they are a fraction of what others recommend but I always start low and see how it goes.

I am going to do the following:
1. National Capital Research Peptides BPC157 10mg Vial - bought 5 and will run 250 twice a day into two injury sites at a time. Right now I am concentrating on my bicep and chest. This product is provided by a close personal/trusted friend and at this time the peptides are not being sold to the public.
Same company - will be ordering TB500 Shortly but for now won’t be using it. When I add it, I will update.
I am on TRT - Test enanthate 100 mg a week and making excellent gains as my test was very low.
Just purchased INNO nandrolone decanoate - 150 mg per week. (My dosages are always less than the average BB as my goals are different and I’m older and cautious.
I have INNO oxandolone as well but am not going to use it for now.
I recently started Serono serostim prescription GH - 1.5 IU’s a day.
That’s it.
My Bac water should arrive tomorrow so I will start tomorrow.
I’m not sure how to do a proper log so I apologize if this is scattered or not clear. Questions welcomed.
 
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You sound like me, I have so many ongoing injuries. It is all part of the game, and you find a way or treatment to help you get through it. I am curious to hear how your regimen helps and your feedback.
 

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You sound like me, I have so many ongoing injuries. It is all part of the game, and you find a way or treatment to help you get through it. I am curious to hear how your regimen helps and your feedback.
Thanks @rhynoplanet - will try to update weekly. I keep my own log and routine, diet, physio/etc., what I’m taking and progress or step backs. Fingers crossed as I’m getting tired of changing my routines to deal with my issue lol
 

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I hear you on this one my friend, injuries and nagging pains are all part of the game. I am bloody sore all the time, especially now 6 weeks out from a show. Joints are dry ASF, and knees feel like they are going to cave in every time I walk.

Only thing I can suggest is massage therapy at least once per week, stretching, icing, taking the right supplementation. And listen to your body when training. I train 2 on, 1 off and seems to help with the recovery...

- PacMan
 

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I hear you on this one my friend, injuries and nagging pains are all part of the game. I am bloody sore all the time, especially now 6 weeks out from a show. Joints are dry ASF, and knees feel like they are going to cave in every time I walk.

Only thing I can suggest is massage therapy at least once per week, stretching, icing, taking the right supplementation. And listen to your body when training. I train 2 on, 1 off and seems to help with the recovery...

- PacMan
Thanks for the info @PacMan - I changed to one day on and one day off (reluctantly for upper body) about 6 months ago as I can no longer can workout through the pain. I just get a chronic injury so if I feel a ‘bad pain’ I walk away from my workout as the fallout isn’t worth it. I dropped exercises that I know aggravate issues.

I am a nazi with my supplements but didn’t want to bore people with the long list. I take a considerable number of supplements for inflammation and general antioxidant protection. I take prophylactic MSM/glu/choindroiten but have never found they do anything. I tried collagen for 6 months too - nothing.

I stretch for 15 minutes everyday, I am rehabbing my right knee and training high volume / no weight EOD which forces me to train one upper body part every second day.
I forgot about massage and ice but I have 4 gel packs in the freezer from the past - I have coverage but haven’t gone for one in a long time. The massage my rehab physiotherapist does on my chest is torture - a metal instrument pressed and moved around to break up scar tissue.
Any suggestions on supplements?
 

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I'm behind you on this one and planning a very similar approach for nagging soft tissue problems I'm both shoulders.
I have my Bpc157 in hand but decided to start GH for a few months to build levels then hit the BPC157 for 6 weeks, then hopefully flow into a cycle this winter. Continue GH for 9mos to a year.

I'll be watching your progress closely!
 

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I'm behind you on this one and planning a very similar approach for nagging soft tissue problems I'm both shoulders.
I have my Bpc157 in hand but decided to start GH for a few months to build levels then hit the BPC157 for 6 weeks, then hopefully flow into a cycle this winter. Continue GH for 9mos to a year.

I'll be watching your progress closely!
That’s @DeeCee - there are a lot of suffering from injuries that won’t go away even after rest, rehab, etc. Especially for old farts like myself.
I should have added to my original post - I stretch 15-25 minutes everyday before I touch a weight and on off days, essential to keep the flexibility for healing. I also have a good foam roller and use it every second day at home for my chest and leg(knee), I also use a hard ball for rolling on my chest and bicep. The forum roller helped my knee a lot.
 

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Yeah I've been in and out of physio for years, stretch as well and yoga plus strengthening exercises. My problem is consistency I find it hard to fit all that in with weight training and family/work life. I had poor posture for years resulting in inward rotating scapulas. Ultrasound and x-rays recently showed no major damage though so I'm really hoping to buckle down and finally get them back to at least 80 percent.
 

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Just an update - bac water was late getting here so starting the BPC tonight. Will be using 500 mcg’s twice a day for two injuries sites. This is based on the math I read in a few studies of 10 mcg per kg of body weight.
I have been on 1-1.5 iu’s Of GH since August 20th and just increased it to 2 IU’s first thing in the morning.

I still stretch everyday for 15 minutes, foam rolling, lowered my weights to give my body some resistance but not overdue it. My knee is getting stronger and my left groin pull is getting better too. My left pec and left bicep are still sore hence the two areas I will starting the BPC with.

I hope to see some improvement soon.
 

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On GH for 1 month now, started at 1 IU and upped by .5 iu per week and now on 2.5 which is my ceiling. I will run this for 6 months minimum.
500 mcg’s of NCRP in bicep and chest/ribs area twice a day.
INNO Test en (75-100 mg) and now INNO nandrolone 200 mg per week.
Foam rolls and stretching for 15-30 minutes per day.
Taking collagen supplements, vitamin c, e, d, Sam-e, fish oil, co-enzyme q10, betaine, probiotics, ginger, turmeric and black pepper.
I eat well and won’t list everything but get 150 grams of protein and I’m 215 pounds. Eat three balanced meals, one protein drink after training and a snack before bed - Greek yogurt, protein bar or walnuts.
I lowered all my weights by 50% as I keep a workout log and each time I run a successful workout without too much pain or the pain subsides quickly after, I will add 5 lbs the following workout.
Train legs and abs EOD because I am doing volume/body weight exercises / no added weight to squats, etc. Train my upper body EOD - shoulders, back, biceps/triceps/forearms, and starting very light chest presses - broom stick style lol.
My Achilles’ tendons are 100% at this time. No pain during or after exercises.
Left groin - same as Achilles. No pain during or after.
Left bicep - mild discomfort while exercising back and biceps but subsides after icing.
Chest - can’t make any real comments as I am only moving 5-10 lbs but no discomfort.

I ordered enough TB500 to use for two months and should be here next week. Same brand.
No miracles yet as it’s only been a month for GH, and 10 days for Nandrolone and test, and 6 days for BPC. That being said - I’m optimistic.
Keep in mind I tried the reduction of weight and slowly add more to build up which failure in the past.
Any suggestion/comments are always welcomed.
Per @PacMan suggestion - booking a massage each week.
Have a nice weekend - GR
 
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