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Jdave

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You received good advice from the first couple.. test, primo, mast,
agreed. Pretty sure @Bigtuna84 outlined this before

Alex if you have a focus on health look through bigtuna’s posts he’s outlined not only topics like this but also health supplements that could aid you as well
 

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More blood (higher RBC count) you will have a harder time with your heart and therefore your cardio vascular output.
the endurance thing must be with moderate doses - or at some point where a diminishing return wasn’t yet realized. It’s like when people say to run deca for its joint health not but then most of us who have realize on deca our joints might have felt somewhat better but when the cycle ends they almost feel worse
I never felt much from NPP as far as joints
But then I really don't have any joint issues...knock wood
Even though I've got arthritis It dosen't effect my joints thank god

I find NPP is real good for the muscles to recover from training
How about Anavar you like it ?
I heard it's not too bad for cholesterol and such so that's good

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As I recall EQ is the AAS Big Ben Johnson got caught using at the 88 Olympics
I guess he didn't really need much endurance to explode for a 100 meter human drag race

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Ok....but he was basically insinuating that there wasn

It was Winstrol V.
I stand corrected Sir Winstroll V it was
At the 88 Olympics Big Ben got fucked over a little bit I think he took gear but so was everyone else
So he win period lol

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How much test and primo would the max "safest" dose be? Like at what point would sides outweigh benfits. Also what would be minimum effective dose for test and primo?
Not sure if anyone answered this for you - can’t be answered because everyone is different but anyone who tells you a lot is needed is full of shit until you find out for yourself. i don’t require much - TRT doses 100-200 mg a week of test and I can grow. Add 200 mg of primo and that is a blast for me but many will say it is a waste. Check out my post rehab for nagging injuries. I was taking very little gear, not training hard because I was trying to heal and I gained 15 pounds of muscle. I was ensuring I had lots of protein but I wasn’t eating for mass.
I never took high amounts or more than one compound at a time so this was the first time I ever took two compounds.
Don’t fall into the trap that grams of gear is needed to grow. Working out and growing is a marathon or you won’t keep it. Further - diet is probably the most important part of lifting weights.
 

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Anavar has a real good reputation as mild on the system yet effective
Anavar the ladies chose for aas

-Pewbert
Hi Pewbert - I agree as far as orals go anavar is one of the safer ones but it is still going to be harder on the liver and lipids than test, primo or mast.
 
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Welcome to the board. I would suggest test E or C at 500 mg a week for 12-16 weeks. That’s all you need, if you really want to add more try a low dose of Mast e at 150-300 mg a week. Have aromidex on hand but you shouldn’t need it at that dose.
 

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Anavar has a real good reputation as mild on the system yet effective
Anavar the ladies chose for aas

-Pewbert
Hi Pewbert - I agree as far as orals go anavar is one of the safer ones but it is still going to be harder on the liver and lipids than test, primo or mast.
I’ve had bloods drawn on 40mg, 60mg, and 80mg of Anavar. It didn’t really affect my liver values much at all. But as far as lipids go, it was no better than Winstrol. Virtually the exact same lipid profile on Anavar, T-bol, and Winstrol.
Now I just don’t do orals anymore. I don’t believe any of them to be “safe” for my 45 year old body.
 

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I’ve had bloods drawn on 40mg, 60mg, and 80mg of Anavar. It didn’t really affect my liver values much at all. But as far as lipids go, it was no better than Winstrol. Virtually the exact same lipid profile on Anavar, T-bol, and Winstrol.
Maybe your one of the lucky ones - and good on you for testing with bloods. I do the same. As far as orals go - it is prescribed a lot and considered ‘safer’.
 

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Maybe your one of the lucky ones - and good on you for testing with bloods. I do the same. As far as orals go - it is prescribed a lot and considered ‘safer’.
Anavar is not prescribed a lot. It’s virtually obsolete in the medical community.
 

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Anavar is not prescribed a lot. It’s virtually obsolete in the medical community.
Ok - I’m not going to argue with you. Not my understanding but I don’t have a paper or page to post up. I was regurgitating what our infectious disease doctor told me as he is a friend and we only have one in the Province.
 

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Ok - I’m not going to argue with you. Not my understanding but I don’t have a paper or page to post up. I was regurgitating what our infectious disease doctor told me as he is a friend and we only have one in the Province.
Don’t get me wrong. It’s still approved for use and licensed for distribution in Canada. I’m sure it’s still used occasionally. But newer drugs have taken it’s place for most if it’s “on label” uses. I bet most pharmacist under 50 have never even seen it, let alone have it in stock.
 

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Don’t get me wrong. It’s still approved for use and licensed for distribution in Canada. I’m sure it’s still used occasionally. But newer drugs have taken it’s place for most if it’s “on label” uses. I bet most pharmacist under 50 have never even seen it, let alone have it in stock.
Like I said - not arguing. I have three docs in our little Province that are friends and I listen to them (for what they do here). The infectious disease guy says he uses it all the time. I did not push and ask specifically for what.
 

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Like I said - not arguing. I have three docs in our little Province that are friends and I listen to them (for what they do here). The infectious disease guy says he uses it all the time. I did not push and ask specifically for what.
Interesting. I’m super curious what he uses it for.
On another note, I remember back in the 90’s pharma Anavar was circulating around the ball club. They were 2.5mg tablets and sold for $1-$2 per tablet. I don’t remember anybody using more than 20mg/day. It’s the only time I ever saw pharma Anavar. I didn’t use back then back then but I remember it well because I couldn’t understand how anybody could afford to do steroids.
Times sure have changed.
 

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Interesting. I’m super curious what he uses it for.
On another note, I remember back in the 90’s pharma Anavar was circulating around the ball club. They were 2.5mg tablets and sold for $1-$2 per tablet. I don’t remember anybody using more than 20mg/day. It’s the only time I ever saw pharma Anavar. I didn’t use back then back then but I remember it well because I couldn’t understand how anybody could afford to do steroids.
Times sure have changed.
in my little Province, we don't have a lot of specialists and at times we don't even have a cardiologist (no joke) so for example an infections disease doctor may be asked to see someone because he/she is the most qualified.
I have a great GP and I know 4 doctors personally but in general - our health care system on this Province is not good. Many move away because of it.
 

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Well I sure didn't like EQ it fuked me up good
The Tren and NPP I've run in past made me feel great in comparison
It's funny because I thought EQ would give me more endurance and I'd train harder and big pumps and such
But the total opposite happened
How about anavar what do you think about it ?
You ever try syn anavar ?

-Pewbert
Anavar is a good oral for strength and hardness with minimal sides.

Excellent choice for women, one of the safer ones in this regard.
With doses for men, often 50-100 mg a day, don’t be fooled by bro science that says it is completely safe. It will throw off your lipids a bit and will stress your liver to some degree.
I get awful heartburn on anavar, as most orals seem to do this to me

I have not used syn anavar as I do not run the compound but my wife has tried the syn anavar with good results. It did exactly what it should and you are fine with using it from this lab or any other quality lab.
 

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EQ is not one of the safest and perhaps far from it

All steroids will increase RBC, thicker blood and some (including nandrolone and tren) cause a thickening of the inner arterial walls but one that’s specifically known to increase RBC above all other ones isn’t going to be the greatest for your heart or kidneys. This video also outlined possible GI issues.
Hi @Jdave - I watched that too and I also watched a video (don't have time to find it right now) where the same doc was asked what are the safest steroid and he said - test, primo, masteron, and equipoise. I did not check the dates of the videos though.
good info all the same brother!
 
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