What's new

The deadlift

sammy

sammy

Rookie
Joined
Jan 20, 2020
Messages
48
Likes Received
43
I’ll be 45 in February . It took me 8 months to reach a max deadlift of 405 . I know you can’t believe everything you read but it became a personal goal of mine after I read 405 is a intermediate deadlift and 500 is a Elite deadlift . Also read that to reach 405 on average takes 8 months while going from 405 to 500 could take 3 years . So for 1 . Is that true ? And 2. How does age effect that ? Is 405 where I stop or Do I just keep pushing for it and one day when I’m 50 I’ll have a elite deadlift ?
 
rhynoplanet

rhynoplanet

VET
Joined
Feb 20, 2015
Messages
4,170
Likes Received
4,587
Not sure where you heard that a 500 lbs deadlift is elite but that isn’t even close. It would be average at best. There is not rule how long it takes to get to a certain weight, some people will deadlift 500 lbs almost immediately and some will never get there. Just keep training hard and try different programs and approaches to it. If you are really struggling then hire a programmer or coach.
 
Old RhynoS

Old RhynoS

Super Heavyweight
Joined
Dec 3, 2019
Messages
1,139
Likes Received
1,707
I've never spent much time deadlifting . I've been able to do what I consider an average weight for me but never pushed to increase it towards any specific goal poundage. I did however focus on bench , surprise surprise I know, and understand the effort to reach specific goals.
That being said I believe you can hit 500 for sure. And much sooner that 3yrs.
Taylor your training to that goal, stay on-top of your diet and recovery and you should be able to hit it.
Go for it 👍💪
 
CurtisP

CurtisP

VET
Joined
Apr 19, 2019
Messages
2,630
Likes Received
6,005
Agreed with @rhynoplanet - a lot of my natural powerlifting friends are pulling 650 + deadlifts.

Train hard - but also train smart. Hire a GOOD strength coach if it’s only your goal to hit 500 dead
 
Daway

Daway

In before the lock
Joined
Jan 30, 2019
Messages
1,455
Likes Received
2,480
Location
Maritimes
The thing with strength standards is they compare you to other lifters not the general population. Some strength standards also tune for age and adjust levels accordingly.

Compared to the people I see around me in day to day life, 3 plates would be herculean much less 405. In the context of lifting where so many In their 40s and 50s are lifting WELL over 500 then yea, its intermediate.

Improvement to me is more important. Use strength standards only if they give you motivation to improve. Two years ago at 47 years old when I started my lifting journey again (I lifted in my teens/early 20s but as a supplement for a sport not to lift in and of itself) the idea of lifting a "heavy" lift like 405 seemed unattainable. Looking back on how the "impossible" is now just another milestone is what motivates me to challenge limits. Goals should be about what you want not what a chart tells you. To hell with a chart.
 
3ml

3ml

VET
Joined
Jul 29, 2016
Messages
1,187
Likes Received
2,380
Location
Parts unknown
First off congrats on hitting 405.

So no in powerlifting terms 500 is not elite. But compare yourself to most other 40 some year olds you are definitely a small minority of men if you can do this.

I was pulling mid to high 600s in my very early 20s
I don’t fuck with that much weight now. Not saying it isn’t possible to lift these weights into your 40s and 50s, but as you age injuries seem to happen more often. 500 is a reasonable goal. I think you can do it well under 3 years. Shit if you get a good coach just form could add 30-50lbs right away.

Keep up the good work
 
sammy

sammy

Rookie
Joined
Jan 20, 2020
Messages
48
Likes Received
43
3ml said:
First off congrats on hitting 405.

So no in powerlifting terms 500 is not elite. But compare yourself to most other 40 some year olds you are definitely a small minority of men if you can do this.

I was pulling mid to high 600s in my very early 20s
I don’t fuck with that much weight now. Not saying it isn’t possible to lift these weights into your 40s and 50s, but as you age injuries seem to happen more often. 500 is a reasonable goal. I think you can do it well under 3 years. Shit if you get a good coach just form could add 30-50lbs right away.

Keep up the good work
Click to expand...
3ml said:
First off congrats on hitting 405.

So no in powerlifting terms 500 is not elite. But compare yourself to most other 40 some year olds you are definitely a small minority of men if you can do this.

I was pulling mid to high 600s in my very early 20s
I don’t fuck with that much weight now. Not saying it isn’t possible to lift these weights into your 40s and 50s, but as you age injuries seem to happen more often. 500 is a reasonable goal. I think you can do it well under 3 years. Shit if you get a good coach just form could add 30-50lbs right away.

Keep up the good work
Click to expand...
i know this about form . One time at the gym the fitniss instructor just decided to give me free coaching cause he had nothing to do maybe . IDK , Anyway he Just told Me to move my feet in a little and afterWards I did A speed rep For a Weight I usually can’t speed rep .
 
Goldenrod

Goldenrod

VET
Joined
Jan 31, 2019
Messages
7,507
Likes Received
13,170
rhynoplanet said:
Not sure where you heard that a 500 lbs deadlift is elite but that isn’t even close. It would be average at best. There is not rule how long it takes to get to a certain weight, some people will deadlift 500 lbs almost immediately and some will never get there. Just keep training hard and try different programs and approaches to it. If you are really struggling then hire a programmer or coach.
Click to expand...
keep in mind @rhynoplanet is one of the strongest people around period. Look at his log - the weight he moves is incredible and he is not a kid. Nothing wrong with that deadlift but you can't compare yourself to others - set goals, work hard, and be proud when you get there.
Not kissing Rhyno's ass - read his log and you will know what I am talking about. He competed and wins.
 
Jestopherson

Jestopherson

Juicy Junior
Joined
Jul 15, 2020
Messages
1,489
Likes Received
1,948
Location
The Best Coast
sammy said:
I’ll be 45 in February . It took me 8 months to reach a max deadlift of 405 . I know you can’t believe everything you read but it became a personal goal of mine after I read 405 is a intermediate deadlift and 500 is a Elite deadlift . Also read that to reach 405 on average takes 8 months while going from 405 to 500 could take 3 years . So for 1 . Is that true ? And 2. How does age effect that ? Is 405 where I stop or Do I just keep pushing for it and one day when I’m 50 I’ll have a elite deadlift ?
Click to expand...
It's not the weight you're lifting in total that determines the level of lifting. But the weight you're lifting in relation to total bodyweight. Which will give you a wilks score. Its how you compare lifting capabilities across multiple body weights. Before covid and ever touching gear I had an 1105 total at 181lbs. But compared to a 165lb guy lifting that, hes the more advanced lifter.

Are you on a legit powerlifting program? There is no time frame for any weights as a 300lb guy could pull 500lbs on his first 6 months of lifting. You can definitely do 500lbs and potentially within the next year or slightly more. But hop on an actual lifting program; boris sheiko is a renowned lifting coach and has incredible programs. By far my favourite I've ever run. They do cost a few bucks but its worth it.
 
sammy

sammy

Rookie
Joined
Jan 20, 2020
Messages
48
Likes Received
43
I’m just getting into the game hire ing a coach . When covid hit I focused on diet and had a diet coach . I didn’t have any weights at home but now I’ve got a tone of weight . Squat racks dumbbells , Olympic chest . I did deadlifts every day once I got my plates lol
 
Jestopherson

Jestopherson

Juicy Junior
Joined
Jul 15, 2020
Messages
1,489
Likes Received
1,948
Location
The Best Coast
sammy said:
I’m just getting into the game hire ing a coach . When covid hit I focused on diet and had a diet coach . I didn’t have any weights at home but now I’ve got a tone of weight . Squat racks dumbbells , Olympic chest . I did deadlifts every day once I got my plates lol
Click to expand...
Avoid deadlifting every day. It's one of the most taxing lifts. Like eod and incorporate deficit deads, block pulls. Chained or banded deads are my fucking favourite. Same with paused deads. So many variations!
 
superbeast

superbeast

Super Heavyweight
Joined
Mar 4, 2016
Messages
1,347
Likes Received
3,018
sammy said:
I’ll be 45 in February . It took me 8 months to reach a max deadlift of 405 . I know you can’t believe everything you read but it became a personal goal of mine after I read 405 is a intermediate deadlift and 500 is a Elite deadlift . Also read that to reach 405 on average takes 8 months while going from 405 to 500 could take 3 years . So for 1 . Is that true ? And 2. How does age effect that ? Is 405 where I stop or Do I just keep pushing for it and one day when I’m 50 I’ll have a elite deadlift ?
Click to expand...
How much do you weigh?
 
Hussell

Hussell

Super Heavyweight
Joined
Jan 8, 2019
Messages
916
Likes Received
1,491
Location
Northern Alberta
405 at 195 is a decent weight for a gym goer that isn't a powerlifter or training like one I hit 605 last year at 39 years old and I've only been training since I was 34 so if you put in the work anything is possible and that was on just a regular TRT dose, most fitness trainers in the gyms i've been in shouldn't be teaching anyone to deadlift if you want to hit big numbers find yourself a powerlifting coach that can teach you not only how to lift but how to rest your body as heavy deads and squats can be extremely taxing on the body.

I am a believer in progressive overload and using those small plates to get stronger and you would be susprised how much 5 pounds every training day adds to your total over time.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top