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The Respiratory Coronavirus Outbreak
By Christian Duque, January 27th, 2020




The respiratory Coronavirus is making headlines, as the Chinese city of Wuhan is currently being quarantined, with countless Americans being evacuated. Over the weekend, three more cases of possible infection have been cited in the United States, while 63 have been tested and 100 others are being closely monitored nationally, concerns are mounting. All five infected in the U.S. had traveled to Wuhan. One of the folks infected is a gentleman in his 50’s in Orange County, CA, who was admitted to a local hospital and is said to be in isolation. Another patient checked himself in after reporting symptoms at LAX.

Airports are instituting screenings which are proving effective, but will only be one of many factors in successfully stopping the spread. For many, the Coronavirus is bringing back memories of the SARS outbreak, which killed 800 people worldwide. While U.S. health officials, particularly in California, have said that daily life should not be affected, their Chinese counterparts are far more concerned with numbers climbing to 2,000 in the world’s third largest country. In fact, NBC quoted Chinese officials as stating, on record, that the Coronavirus “is accelerating and is more infectious than previously thought and it could be spread during the incubation period.” As of the weekend, 15 more deaths were confirmed, bringing the total death toll to 56 (80 by Chinese estimates). So what is the Coronavirus, should we or shouldn’t we be concerned, and what’s next?

According to WebMD the “coronavirus is a kind of common virus that causes an infection in your nose, sinuses, or upper throat.” The site goes on to say that most types of coronovirus are not dangerous; however, this is a new type of the virus. What makes this type so dangerous, is the long incubation period and speed with which it can be spread. Health officials are recommending that people wash their hands often and avoid crowded areas where people are coughing and sneezing. That’s hardly a measure most can take, especially in populous cities, where mass transit is required. Subways cars, buses, elevators and even planes become an issue. What if someone’s coughing and sneezing in any of these places, how feasible is avoiding them? Also, in a country of over 300,000,000 what are the odds that someone coughing could have the virus? Even in China, a country of 1.4 billion, what are the chances there? I’d think folks would be more concerned about getting hit by an asteroid. Still, precautions need to be taken. It’s no wonder surgical masks are selling out worldwide!

Governments are also taking immediate precautions. For example, Hong Kong has barred Hubei residents from entering the city. Hubei is the center of the corona outbreak. “The ban includes those who have been in the province in the past 14 days, but excludes Hong Kong citizens,” per U.S. News & World Report.

Interestingly, the U.S. Embassy is in the process of evacuating some 1,500 U.S. citizens from Wuhan. An earlier U.S. State Department statement said that only U.S. consular officials would be evacuated from Wuhan to San Francisco. Will those, in their entirety, be evacuated and sent to the California city and screened there? I’d hope they were screened extensively, considering the fact that that they have been in the outbreak zone. I’d imagine all 1,500 would be quarantined for at least fifteen days from the point of putting foot on U.S. soil – at least that’s my hope. And that’s what’s so terrifying about this virus, is it’s incubation period. Imagine having exposure and not knowing you’re sick until 14 days later.

Currently, the virus is said to have spread to 15 countries, meanwhile government officials don’t want their constituencies to lose control. The major difference between this outbreak and that of SARS (also a coronoavirus) some seventeen years ago is simple – there was no social media then.

Governments have a very real concern with maintaining calm and taking steps preventing panic. With that being said, there’s calm and then there’s denial. Ignorance is bliss, but it comes with a price. If people start to believe the virus is a non-issue and they consciously ignore symptoms, they could be doing harm to themselves and to society as a whole.



If this outbreak spreads any faster, then I can see health departments from coast to coast in the United States, alone, abandoning their campaign for calm and instead, advocating containment. I think that anyone, especially who’s traveled to Wuhan and/or who has come in contact with anyone who’s traveled to Wuhan recently, that’s exhibiting symptoms, should consider getting screened if they all of a sudden have symptoms including fever, dry cough, and shortness of breath. Health officials need to stop making people feel like hypochondriacs and encourage more self-monitoring, while of course discouraging any sort of self-diagnosis. Calm is key, but it shouldn’t trump addressing legitimate health concerns.

Overall, health officials around the world have done a great job, but as with any outbreak of this sort, no one’s ever fully ready. Some have described Chinese measures as being draconian, quarantining an area populated by over 35 million. All travel, ingress and egress, is nonexistent. The city of Wuhan and neighboring districts have been entirely cut off from the world.

With the Chinese New Year (January 25th) now over, with many celebrations being canceled, other concerns exist, like region running out of food. What will be done for Wuhan residents?

That being said, Beijing is taking zero chances; however, will other countries follow their harsh lead or will civil liberties prevent them from depriving a few citizens of their rights, in order to protect society as a whole? That’s a debate that will have to play out, on its own, country by country. I can’t imagine Washington will follow Beijing’s approach in the U.S., especially given the fact that state governments, alone, could decide this matter 50 different ways.

How governments will address this illness is a big part of what’s next to come. While avoiding public gatherings, washing your hands, and even wearing a surgical mask are all great ways to reduce the spread of this virus, they are not permanent solutions. It’s also not feasible to expect entire populations to live this way.

I’m afraid this outbreak will only get worse, especially since we only have limited knowledge about it. I certainly hope that all governments share what they know and work together towards finding and/or creating some kind of treatment, from a vaccine to prevent future cases and/or a cure to save those already infected.

To date, we have not seen any children infected; we also don’t know how their immune systems would respond. I think it’s very important that schools, from primary, secondary, and even post-secondary institutions be trained and allocated resources immediately to address any possible situations. I think schools should at least consider following the model airports are taking. Prevention is key, as well as education. I can’t stress enough that maintaining calm, while important to prevent panic, shouldn’t be the absolute highest objective,

 

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Im not that smart so bear with me....

This is my thoughts on this - China should of called it an epidemic straight off the bat with an pandemic label put on it shortly after ( considering the level of infected cases rising in China so rapidly every day now)

They didnt because there’s possibly certain international laws that would be immediately put down that would limit China’s trading or whatever from operating. it sounded like the international community probably wanted it called out right away but they went along with China’s statements just so their health officials were allowed into their country so at least they could monitor it in the beginning. if they said shit against China right off the bat about what to do China would nt let any of the health inspectors in probably. Now because of the magnitude of the case is growing they’re shutting down the flights and travel and this and that but the whole world community should’ve jumped on this waay fucking quicker because of that Sars experience we had years back. 🤷🏻
 

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I hope to contract the 'Corona'-virus at the pub in Costa Rica at the end of next month...... :ROFLMAO:
Ive been there 2wice .... the first time wasnt married , ended up meeting a local señorita and exteneded my stay by a week at her place ..... didnt contract any ‘viruses’ from that trip 😅😉

Happy for ur trip to CR enjoy !!! One of the best countries ive been to 👍
 

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I am not really concerned with this virus...
It sounds scary, but like the article says, this is the first major medical outbreak under the influence of social media.

Despite not having a vaccine for the current strain, Chinese scientists have already identified the genetic sequence of the virus and it was made public for worldwide scientific research groups. Human trials for a vaccine will be starting within 3 months and a solidified ongoing vaccine within a year.

Aside from that, it's just a common respiratory infection that if left untreated can be fatal like any other infection that spreads.
I could be wrong *knock on wood* but I think this will be done and gone in a few months.
 

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I am not really concerned with this virus...
It sounds scary, but like the article says, this is the first major medical outbreak under the influence of social media.

Despite not having a vaccine for the current strain, Chinese scientists have already identified the genetic sequence of the virus and it was made public for worldwide scientific research groups. Human trials for a vaccine will be starting within 3 months and a solidified ongoing vaccine within a year.

Aside from that, it's just a common respiratory infection that if left untreated can be fatal like any other infection that spreads.
I could be wrong *knock on wood* but I think this will be done and gone in a few months.
Left untreated? There is no current treatment for it
 

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Left untreated? There is no current treatment for it
Right I said that, but there are still band-aid medications and prescriptions for symptoms and a lot of third world countries have access to nothing.

We have many medications to extend the life of those that make poor decisions with diet/exercise/drugs.
There are many anti-biotics & corticosteroids for respiratory/lung/sinus infections.
Do we have the cure for this particular coronavirus? Not yet, but we already have two vaccines for similar strains of the virus.

We also don't have a cure for HIV/Aids, Cancer, Heart Disease etc.
We see countless posts and articles about this boogeyman infectious virus, yet nobody talks about the 18 million lost to heart disease.
or the 10 million deaths from cancer? Annually?? Everyone has just moved on and accepted the chance at early mortality as if it's part of life.

This virus we're all afraid of, probably won't even approach the 26,500 deaths from terrorist attacks.
The casualties from this virus won't even be a shadow of the 400k deaths from us killing each-other.

I am going to carry on my normal life as if this virus didn't exist.
Of course I am going to exercise maximum effort for immune system and prevention, but this won't be that big of a deal.
 

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Right I said that, but there are still band-aid medications and prescriptions for symptoms and a lot of third world countries have access to nothing.

We have many medications to extend the life of those that make poor decisions with diet/exercise/drugs.
There are many anti-biotics & corticosteroids for respiratory/lung/sinus infections.
Do we have the cure for this particular coronavirus? Not yet, but we already have two vaccines for similar strains of the virus.

We also don't have a cure for HIV/Aids, Cancer, Heart Disease etc.
We see countless posts and articles about this boogeyman infectious virus, yet nobody talks about the 18 million lost to heart disease.
or the 10 million deaths from cancer? Annually?? Everyone has just moved on and accepted the chance at early mortality as if it's part of life.

This virus we're all afraid of, probably won't even approach the 26,500 deaths from terrorist attacks.
The casualties from this virus won't even be a shadow of the 400k deaths from us killing each-other.

I am going to carry on my normal life as if this virus didn't exist.
Of course I am going to exercise maximum effort for immune system and prevention, but this won't be that big of a deal.
So you’re saying that anyone not taking scripts, vaccines or meds for it that we don’t even know if they are bands for this virus then we could die?
 

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So you’re saying that anyone not taking scripts, vaccines or meds for it that we don’t even know if they are bands for this virus then we could die?
Like the common cold. Any infection left long enough with a hindered immune system can be fatal.

Are you afraid? This is not the Bubonic Plague.
 

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-- It's definitely worth keeping a concerned eye on but we have to remember this is a strain of flu similar to pneumonia. It is however quite nasty in nature and seems to be more contagious and communicable. Like pneumonia, the people most in danger are the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. I read somewhere the median age of those actually dying in China was 74 years old.

The article points out that this is the first worldwide epidemic occurring in the age of widespread internet usage and that's an important aspect. If you saw my friends posting on social media you'd be assuming that this was the end of times or that China is involved in some huge conspiracy theory by isolating entire towns and villages to purposely infect them with experimental drugs, lol. Their posts would have you believe this is some kind of zombie strain in which one infected person spreads it to fourteen and then so on and so on exponentially. It's not. The world is not yet doomed.

The article also makes reference to former epidemics such as SARS and Ebola (you can add Swine flu and Avian flu as well) which also caused worldwide panic, albeit pre widespread internet usage. The world has dealt with similar outbreaks before and mobilized rapidly to get the upper hand rather quite handily. Yes, there is need to be concerned but the end of times it is not. Wash your hands often Monsters!
 

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Like the common cold. Any infection left long enough with a hindered immune system can be fatal.

Are you afraid? This is not the Bubonic Plague.
No I am not afraid but are you a doctor or scientist lol
 
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Right I said that, but there are still band-aid medications and prescriptions for symptoms and a lot of third world countries have access to nothing.

We have many medications to extend the life of those that make poor decisions with diet/exercise/drugs.
There are many anti-biotics & corticosteroids for respiratory/lung/sinus infections.
Do we have the cure for this particular coronavirus? Not yet, but we already have two vaccines for similar strains of the virus.

We also don't have a cure for HIV/Aids, Cancer, Heart Disease etc.
We see countless posts and articles about this boogeyman infectious virus, yet nobody talks about the 18 million lost to heart disease.
or the 10 million deaths from cancer? Annually?? Everyone has just moved on and accepted the chance at early mortality as if it's part of life.

This virus we're all afraid of, probably won't even approach the 26,500 deaths from terrorist attacks.
The casualties from this virus won't even be a shadow of the 400k deaths from us killing each-other.

I am going to carry on my normal life as if this virus didn't exist.
Of course I am going to exercise maximum effort for immune system and prevention, but this won't be that big of a deal.
We USED to talk about heart disease until feminism dictated that telling people to watch their diets and to exercise constituted as fat shaming and mental trauma
 

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Had to do a work (EMS) seminar on this topic yesterday. Pre cautionary reasons. It’s all hyped up. It’s not an airborne disease. It’s passed through droplets (fluid / coughing droplets ) within 6 foot proximity.
No cure. No vaccine. Originated in a area of over 33 million people. Only 5 thousand reported cases.
that’s like a dime in a 5 gallon bucket. Come on people. What’s the chances of being within 6 feet of someone with was in Wuhan , carrying the virus. And getting their droplets on you. Here in Canada. Next to none.
45 mins of my time I’ll never get back. However it only lives on surfaces for 3 hours. So that coat I have coming from wish will still be safe ;)
 
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My favorite political operative, Steve Bannon - the architect of Trump's presidency and arch villain to leftists and globalists, has a podcast covering the pandemic. He brings on renowned experts to cut through all the BS.

This stuff is GOLD

Episode 4: Dr Steven Hatfill, and expert in biological warfare breaks down what's happening now

Episode 5: the history of pandemics and how they tie into what's happening now
 

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Had to do a work (EMS) seminar on this topic yesterday. Pre cautionary reasons. It’s all hyped up. It’s not an airborne disease. It’s passed through droplets (fluid / coughing droplets ) within 6 foot proximity.
No cure. No vaccine. Originated in a area of over 33 million people. Only 5 thousand reported cases.
that’s like a dime in a 5 gallon bucket. Come on people. What’s the chances of being within 6 feet of someone with was in Wuhan , carrying the virus. And getting their droplets on you. Here in Canada. Next to none.
45 mins of my time I’ll never get back. However it only lives on surfaces for 3 hours. So that coat I have coming from wish will still be safe ;)
I also had to do a bunch of training on it... Also a waste of time.
 
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