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I reintroduced myself last week after a good 10 years away. I'm 38, 5'9", 200lbs, not sure my body fat % (10-15% maybe) and I really don't care.
Currently on TRT @ 200mg bi weekly of Test E and recently ordered CJC 1295 No DAC/GHRP-2 from CMS. I have Fibromyalgia and have found that because of my high metabolism, I have needed to increase my calorie/carb intake to keep my body going. With proper food intake, proper amount of rest and regular lifting I have come out better than ever as I'm really strict but feel like I'm always being held back because my body does have an ongoing medical issue. I'm hoping the stack will help with recovery and sleep but worried that the higher than normal carb intake will lower the effectiveness of the it. Is it only for a certain amount of time after the shot I need to lower carbs? Am I good to eat before the shots?
As well, would I get better results running a cycle after being on for a few months?
Any insight would be great!
Thanks!
 

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Have you ever looked into ldn
(low dose naltrexone)
Lots of people , have found great success with ldn.

Sorry cant help with those peptides , but ill follow the progress along.

Why are you pinning once every 2 weeks. Your on a rollor coster ride doing that.

Do you u have blood work etc?

What other issues do you have? And what labs did you run to verify Fibromyalgia.
 

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I haven't looked into the LDN but will start researching. My endocrinologist had me pinning every 3 weeks to start but dropped it to every 2 weeks. I end up pinning every week because you're spot on about the rollercoaster ride.
I get bloodwork once a year now and my endo watches things very closely. I can pull them up but not being on test, I'm not at zero but below the threshold for sure.
Pituitary tumour, chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia are the 3 major issues.
Thanks for the input
 

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I haven't looked into the LDN but will start researching. My endocrinologist had me pinning every 3 weeks to start but dropped it to every 2 weeks. I end up pinning every week because you're spot on about the rollercoaster ride.
I get bloodwork once a year now and my endo watches things very closely. I can pull them up but not being on test, I'm not at zero but below the threshold for sure.
Pituitary tumour, chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia are the 3 major issues.
Thanks for the input
Ok , i see alot wrong with once a year blood work and your trt protocol may be off, but again its hard to say without seeing bloodwork done , even at once a week youll peak next day after pin, then slowly go down towards end of week , then that next pin drives you back up, too much flauctuating in my opinion, twice a week or 3 days a week , youll see improvements.

Are you on hcg or pregnenolone? Shutting down your lh pretty much shuts down your pregnenolone and 11 essential hormones, so if your lh is zero i can see some problems there, and things that can effect your auto immune issues.

Your pituitary tumor has it been removed ? Hows your thyroid?

I see alot hear to discuss and im side tracking your peptides, but in order to see if peptides are a match for you we need to see whats wrong and look at everything in a whole.
 

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Side track away! I'm starting to think this may be in the wrong section if that's the case lol
I know I feel way better pinning once a week so I can only imagine splitting it into a few per week.
I'm not on anything else as the full panel blood tests have come back decent. GH, IGF, prolactin, etc have all been within range while on TRT. I will try and get into my account and post some bloodwork. Definitely concerns I will bring up to my doctor when we speak this month, I'm due for bloodwork. Tumour is small enough that it's only causing issues with test from what they can tell. Removing will cause more grief than do any good I'm being told. He's a professor at the UofA so I've taken what he says as gospel but he's older and maybe not thinking of other issues being caused?
Another issue is using too much of my script and raising flags so I've been sourcing what I can, but with what I've used, I can definitely feel the difference in lab and script...
I'm open to discussion so keep it coming and I'll provide the info that I know/have. But again, I've been leaning on my endo, perhaps too much...
 
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Side track away! I'm starting to think this may be in the wrong section if that's the case lol
I know I feel way better pinning once a week so I can only imagine splitting it into a few per week.
I'm not on anything else as the full panel blood tests have come back decent. GH, IGF, prolactin, etc have all been within range while on TRT. I will try and get into my account and post some bloodwork. Definitely concerns I will bring up to my doctor when we speak this month, I'm due for bloodwork. Tumour is small enough that it's only causing issues with test from what they can tell. Removing will cause more grief than do any good I'm being told. He's a professor at the UofA so I've taken what he says as gospel but he's older and maybe not thinking of other issues being caused?
Another issue is using too much of my script and raising flags so I've been sourcing what I can, but with what I've used, I can definitely feel the difference in lab and script...
I'm open to discussion so keep it coming and I'll provide the info that I know/have. But again, I've been leaning on my endo, perhaps too much...
Ill wait till , for your lab work to see what youve been testing.
Thyroid panel should be done any pituitary problems directly effect your thyroid
Ft4
Ft3
Reverse t3
You should have cortisol tested as pituitary tumor can effect acth and the release of cortisol , maybe a acth stim test. Cushings syndrome is one example, high cortisol. It will take more then just a blood draw.

Your prolactin is good you say so thats good news, im not really a professional with tumors unfortunately, but something caused it so it be intresting to see all your labs to see whats going on.

Keep us updated.

As far as peptides go im still not sure which ones but keep us updated and as we find out more i may be able to reach out to some peptides professionals i know and help you out more, for now lets work on the issues at hand.

Things id like to see.
-The thyroid panel i mentioned above.
-Testosterone
-Free testosterone
-Shbg
-Estrogen
-Prolactin
-Pregnenolone
-Progesterone
-Dhea
-Iron full panel
-Ferritin
-Magnesium
-Zinc
-B 12
-Cortisol/salive 4 point/stim test/ even a 8am blood draw.
And youvdidnt mentioned if your on hcg or pregnenolone with your trt protocol.
-Full liver panel
-Egfr kidneys
-Cycstin c (kidneys filtering panel, will tell you how well your kidneys are filtering)
-Homocysteine levels in the blood.
-Folate

When we start looking at chronic fatigue this blood work is important, we also wanna start looking at the gut for leaky gut etc vwry common when your Metabolism slows down you get gut issues. Which wreck havoc on your whole system.
 
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I reintroduced myself last week after a good 10 years away. I'm 38, 5'9", 200lbs, not sure my body fat % (10-15% maybe) and I really don't care.
Currently on TRT @ 200mg bi weekly of Test E and recently ordered CJC 1295 No DAC/GHRP-2 from CMS. I have Fibromyalgia and have found that because of my high metabolism, I have needed to increase my calorie/carb intake to keep my body going. With proper food intake, proper amount of rest and regular lifting I have come out better than ever as I'm really strict but feel like I'm always being held back because my body does have an ongoing medical issue. I'm hoping the stack will help with recovery and sleep but worried that the higher than normal carb intake will lower the effectiveness of the it. Is it only for a certain amount of time after the shot I need to lower carbs? Am I good to eat before the shots?
As well, would I get better results running a cycle after being on for a few months?
Any insight would be great!
Thanks!
ill preface by saying I don’t use peptides anymore. I ran them around 2010 for a few years and had some decent results but haven’t kept my research up on them.

I used that combo-ghrp2 and cjc.
I didn’t eat 1.5 to 2 hours prior to shot and would wait 30 mins after the shot. Reason being which was my thought at the time was carbs blunting hgh secretion. The time prior to and post injection would allow the combo to do it’s magic. You will hold some water on them and I found the initial couple injections the hunger was insane but wore off
 

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Attached is pre-injection bloodwork.
Inject tomorrow then more on Monday or Tuesday
Sorry for delay... I work rotational work.
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Attached is pre-injection bloodwork.
Inject tomorrow then more on Monday or Tuesday
Sorry for delay... I work rotational work.
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Did you get any more labs?

Hears what I see
1. You have inflammation somewhere, need to start running more tests on inflammation and find it.

2. Maybe more scans on that tumor and a thyroid scan.
3. You need to pin more frequently, thats why your test is that low , 3 days a week
4. Im guessing you work nights, or that your work schedule is always messed up? Your cortisol is low for morning, amd thats showing bound and unbound, so it could be even lower.
5. T3 is good
6 ft4 is bad , cortisol issues and inflammation can cause that issue and raise your tsh and make your pituitary work harder to produce hormones. This is why your tsh is 4 its going ro get worse.
.peptides are not the answer right now finding that root causes is.

Any inflammation that you can think off tooth infections etc can assist in this issue. Need mkre tests
 

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Did you get any more labs?

Hears what I see
1. You have inflammation somewhere, need to start running more tests on inflammation and find it.

2. Maybe more scans on that tumor and a thyroid scan.
3. You need to pin more frequently, thats why your test is that low , 3 days a week
4. Im guessing you work nights, or that your work schedule is always messed up? Your cortisol is low for morning, amd thats showing bound and unbound, so it could be even lower.
5. T3 is good
6 ft4 is bad , cortisol issues and inflammation can cause that issue and raise your tsh and make your pituitary work harder to produce hormones. This is why your tsh is 4 its going ro get worse.
.peptides are not the answer right now finding that root causes is.

Any inflammation that you can think off tooth infections etc can assist in this issue. Need mkre tests
1. I've been to several specialists to try and determine the cause of the inflammation. The only thing I am being told is it is caused by the Fibromyalgia.
2. I'm due for another scan, it's been awhile. I will push for another.
3. Totally agree... I feel way better at once a week opposed to every 2 weeks. Will be pushing for that as well.
4. No nights, just 3 weeks on/ 3 off. Straight days.

I'll bring up the rest to the doc. Thanks a lot for your input. Appreciate the time you took to have a look and reply.
 

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1. I've been to several specialists to try and determine the cause of the inflammation. The only thing I am being told is it is caused by the Fibromyalgia.
2. I'm due for another scan, it's been awhile. I will push for another.
3. Totally agree... I feel way better at once a week opposed to every 2 weeks. Will be pushing for that as well.
4. No nights, just 3 weeks on/ 3 off. Straight days.

I'll bring up the rest to the doc. Thanks a lot for your input. Appreciate the time you took to have a look and reply.
I would like you to push for a heavy metals hair test.
And a mold test , mycotoxins.
Also look into ldn low dose naltrexone.
 
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