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TRT, my experiences before and 2 months after. (Year and a half update.)

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I should start by saying I had this post written almost two months ago, but left it open in a tab and forgot about it until recently. I'm kind of sloppy with tabs that way. So for those who know me on here I have been on TRT longer than 2 months, but I'm posting this now.

I've had health issues in my life that have destroyed my ability to produce the amount of hormones that my body requires. In all honestly I should have been tested from late puberty before my 20's, and I would likely have required full on HRT from that point, not just TRT. Looking back there were a list of signs that should have told my Dr to look further. If this had been caught then, perhaps I would be able to have come off HRT / TRT and have my body produce the hormones I require.

Make no mistake, I love the TRT that I'm on, it's been life changing for the better, but I would rather have my body produce the hormones rather than require injections for the rest of my life.

Before I started TRT mentally, I was dealing with crippling depression, mood swings that would take me forever to get out of, and to get motivated to do anything was a daily struggle. Physically I haven't been able to make any progress for years in both muscle and strength gains, and it was stupid easy for me to put on fat. Recovery after workouts took forever and I could easily sleep 12 hours. If I got the flu and had to take time off it would take me months to plateau back at my admittedly weak numbers.

Exercise is really the only thing that kept me functional at all. If I had to take any time off for any reason at all it would take me months to get out of the rut of depression.

Finally I went in to the walk in with my symptoms, my GP was on vacation at the time. I told the attending Dr my list of symptoms and he couldn't be more bored, finally he came back with "it's all in your head". So I added a symptom, and said that my dick didn't work, which was a lie since I was 99% sure I required bloodwork. That got his attention, and out came the bloodwork requisition, which when he was filling it out I had to ask him to please fill out a request for free and total test. He also gave me a script for Viagra and sent me on my way.

A week went by and my labs got in, I got tested for nearly every thing they could check off, and my free and total test were unsurprisingly low. I'm still a little embarrassed to say the numbers, but total test was 6.85nmol/L and free was 2.64nmol/L.

I've requested to be referred to a Endo to dial in a full HRT regimen, but they're not accepting new patients in my area so I'll be lucky to get in. For now I'm happy to be on TRT, because every Dr I've seen doesn't want to put me on test but they can't ignore my bloodwork.

Stats before TRT;
168 lbs bodyweight
110 lbs bench at reps, 135 one rep max.
90 lbs squat at reps, 120 one rep max.
130 lbs deadlift at reps, 150 lbs one rep max

Two months in;
177 lbs bodyweight with a noticeable drop in fat.
145 lbs bench at rep, 165 lbs one rep max
140 lbs squat at rep, 175 lbs one rep max
180 lbs deadlift at reps, 240 lbs one rep max.

Quality of life is vastly improved. Since I've been dealing with hormonal deficiency for a good while now I'm prepping for a blast now to counter the effects low hormones have had on me. I'll admit that I also want to get out of the rut I was in physically as fast as possible as well.

To finish, if you need TRT it's a life saver. However if you're looking for a easy solution to hard choices like quitting alcohol or getting other parts of your life in order I would highly advise that you get your life in order. Being on TRT and requiring it for the rest of your life is something that if you can you should avoid in my opinion.
 

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Sorry fat fingered the dislike button.

That's great to hear the difference trt has made - you definitely got stronger.
What does your try consist of? What is "full on HRT"?
 
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Sorry fat fingered the dislike button.

That's great to hear the difference trt has made - you definitely got stronger.
What does your try consist of? What is "full on HRT"?
Ha, no problems, fat fingering happens.

Perhaps I'm screwing up terminology, but by full on HRT I mean that I suspect that I could be a candidate for HGH, and I definitely need my LH, FSH, and SHBG levels tested. I would also like to know my IGF-1 and IGFBP-3 levels to know if past problems with growth is pituitary related.

Currently my TRT is at 100mg of test cypionate per week, split into two 50 mg injections. When I go back to order more blood tests in about three months time I may request that to be upped to 140 mg, but we'll see. This is the best I've felt since puberty, so it's hard to judge by feel if I'm dialed in. If I can up the dose a bit and feel even better then I'm all for it :), but I'll definitely need the blood work to prove it.
 
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Ha, no problems, fat fingering happens.

Perhaps I'm screwing up terminology, but by full on HRT I mean that I suspect that I could be a candidate for HGH, and I definitely need my LH, FSH, and SHBG levels tested. I would also like to know my IGF-1 and IGFBP-3 levels to know if past problems with growth is pituitary related.

Currently my TRT is at 100mg of test cypionate per week, split into two 50 mg injections. When I go back to order more blood tests in about three months time I may request that to be upped to 140 mg, but we'll see. This is the best I've felt since puberty, so it's hard to judge by feel if I'm dialed in. If I can up the dose a bit and feel even better then I'm all for it :), but I'll definitely need the blood work to prove it.
Grats man sounds like you are feeling and doing a lot better, I know what it's like to be "existing" rather than living.

Take this from someone who has been there themselves and be cautious about increasing the dose, more may not be better especially after being without for so long. If you are feeling good as is and it sounds like you are, I suggest just keep running with it.
 
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Glad to hear you are on the better path now that you have figured out some issues and dealing with them. For me the biggest positive I have seen was my depression almost disappeared overnight and has never returned and it has been 3 years now I think. For that reason alone I would never go off trt again, I suffered from depression for years and years and just sucked it up.
 
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Thanks for the support everyone :).

Glad to hear you are on the better path now that you have figured out some issues and dealing with them. For me the biggest positive I have seen was my depression almost disappeared overnight and has never returned and it has been 3 years now I think. For that reason alone I would never go off trt again, I suffered from depression for years and years and just sucked it up.
Agreed, cured all issues with depression and motivation overnight and it seems to be gone for good.

What I find interesting is the stigma around TRT to those who look at testosterone as "evil". If they would look at it as a medicine for depression that doesn't have the terrible list of side effects that some "acceptable" medications do then I believe TRT would be more widely accepted. As it is only my wife knows about my treatment, the rest of my family have to be kept in the dark and if they notice my changes I'll simply tell them I'm on a treatment for my depression.
 
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One thing I do is talk of my TRT to those who want to listen wether it's a man or woman.
To help eliminate certain taboos an open discussion needs to take place. I do not go around continuously talking about it to anybody, but to those that might benefit from TRT. I work with women and they are all aware. The subject of HRT for women is an open subject and viewed by the medical community as a normal treatment. Unfortunately testosterone has been classified as a narcotic by the U.S. and Canadian governments. What makes me mad is this is an hormone, not a drug. The classification makes everybody concerned (doctors, pharmacist and the public) suspect of the hormone and treat it as a cheater's product.
 
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Fuck am I glad to have found this thread. So good looking back on it and seeing my numbers in the gym, and remembering the mental before and after TRT.

Just to give an update, my numbers currently are:

188 lbs bodyweight with enough definition that I have a two pack abs, some vascularity showing through, and those persistent hard to get rid of areas of fat have melted.
195 lbs bench at 8 reps, 240 lbs one rep max
225 lbs squat at 6 reps, 260 lbs one rep max
455 lbs deadlift at 5 reps, 505 lbs one rep max.

To be perfectly clear since I've posted this thread I have done three above TRT blasts. They were spaced out enough that the first two were in 2018 and the last one I'm quitting early(ish) so weight gains aren't that noticeable.
  1. Test C 500mg / week & 400mg Deca / week. (All UGL)
  2. Test C 400mg / week & 150mg Tren Ace / week (mon, wed, fri, took weekends off of pinning). (All UGL)
  3. RAD-140 20mg/day, MK 2866 50mg/ day, and Anavar 40mg/ day cycle topped off by 200mg / week test C (UGL SARMS / Var, script grade test that I've saved up while I was on UGL.)
With cycle 3 I've dropped the SARMS and Anavar and cut my calories down to make sure any further gains are cutting / recomping / whatever you want to call it so I don't shoot up in weight further and get noticed. I'll finish out the 12 weeks total on 200mg / week test.

I'm moving away from solely strength training and for the past 7 weeks have been doing a mixture of strength and cardio. So any further strength gains will likely be minimal, or perhaps even some loss as I am focusing more on cardio currently.

Again, if I could have avoided TRT, I would have. If you can avoid it by quitting alcohol or getting other parts of your life in order then do so. I don't want to be on it the rest of my life, but early health issues have forced me down this road. If you truly need it, then it can be a lifesaver. If you're young and your career doesn't depend on being the absolute best in whatever sport you're in, then consider staying clear of anything that will ruin your hormonal profile for as long as possible.

I'll probably update here periodically. It's good to look back on this personal time capsule.
 
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