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sincerely, if you have means of testing for 191, can you please test optitropin and a kit from the provider?
Posting this on an open source board is a double edged sword. If the results Read 191aa, there will be guys stating I'm pushing optitropin, if results are 192aa I'll be a lab basher. Posting how I get my tests done will make no difference on an open source board, besides that read by the wrong parties will abuse this information and used to their advantage. There will always be spektiks and non believers. This was just advice for the OP, I understand not everyone has the means get their stuff from the pharmacy. In your case and a straight forward answer SEROSTIM from a reputable ug source is going to be your best bet in my opinion, it's not hard to find just dig a tiny bit. Best of luck, I hope you find what your looking for.
 
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Posting this on an open source board is a double edged sword. If the results Read 191aa, there will be guys stating I'm pushing optitropin, if results are 192aa I'll be a lab basher. Posting how I get my tests done will make no difference on an open source board, besides that read by the wrong parties will abuse this information and used to their advantage. There will always be spektiks and non believers. This was just advice for the OP, I understand not everyone has the means get their stuff from the pharmacy. In your case and a straight forward answer SEROSTIM from a reputable ug source is going to be your best bet in my opinion, it's not hard to find just dig a tiny bit. Best of luck, I hope you find what your looking for.

we just want to know if what you’re saying is true and how you are so confident. I don’t think those type of things need to be fully disclosed on the public internet. Also just for clarification this is not an open source board. And trust me I’m not arguing your point I really want to know if it’s possible to prove some genetics are 192. Surely these things can be discussed behind the scenes right?
 

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we just want to know if what you’re saying is true and how you are so confident. I don’t think those type of things need to be fully disclosed on the public internet. Also just for clarification this is not an open source board. And trust me I’m not arguing your point I really want to know if it’s possible to prove some genetics are 192. Surely these things can be discussed behind the scenes right?

@Cumminstech2 if you toss out some names you know are 192aa I would do the footwork to confirm/test Jano ability to identify it. Not a source just the branding or the ones you for sure know are 192?

Would be worth the fee for future reference or atleast the bros here know that they have a reliable way to test things. Can't take everyone at face value anyways but I'm pretty confident Jano does identify it.

I use Opti's too and plan to for awhile so I would like to know. Worth it for something you may be running 6mo-1 year+ imo.

edit: You can also PM me if you don't feel like putting brands on blast in public as well.
 

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One of you GH experts might know , if one brand is 192AA would it not spike IGF1 then slowly decrease over period of time via antibodies / allergen as some paper work claims ??
 

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One of you GH experts might know , if one brand is 192AA would it not spike IGF1 then slowly decrease over period of time via antibodies / allergen as some paper work claims ??

antibodies etc is not an exact science, I'm pretty confident after the info I Posted above that proper HPLC testing can detect 192 anyways but hopefully one of us will do a blind test with Jano to see.

Would be much too hard to identify by the slow decrease in IGF1 as other factors can play into that as well (liver etc).
 

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Posting this on an open source board is a double edged sword. If the results Read 191aa, there will be guys stating I'm pushing optitropin, if results are 192aa I'll be a lab basher. Posting how I get my tests done will make no difference on an open source board, besides that read by the wrong parties will abuse this information and used to their advantage. There will always be spektiks and non believers. This was just advice for the OP, I understand not everyone has the means get their stuff from the pharmacy. In your case and a straight forward answer SEROSTIM from a reputable ug source is going to be your best bet in my opinion, it's not hard to find just dig a tiny bit. Best of luck, I hope you find what your looking for.

Im honestly way more interested in your testing methods because I want to know if there’s reputable local testing without having to go international. I’m not asking you what GH is good or bad, I’m just curious what you have access too.

I’m also with you and hopefully @Affliction79 is able to eventually find where he can serostim, with just a little digging I have faith you can find a source :)
 

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AFAIK you can differentiate between them with HPLC testing and in regards to your comment @GH.freak on how sensitive GH is to shipping here is a direct quote from someone a lot smarter than me who runs hundreds of HPLC testing a month and he even did some tests on leaving lyophilized pucks out in car or something for X amount of days then testing purity. The only severe degradation jano found was reconstituting and then leaving it out of the fridge.

So the whole HGH kits being ruined in shipping that are not reconstituted seems to be a bit overstated or outright an excuse by shitty dealers.

"It's been proved over and over again that the HGH is much more impervious than people assume it to be. It's exactly as Opti says, shipping conditions won't affect GH at all.

Only people who say that shipping / storage conditions hurt HGH significantly either have no idea or are trying to defend their product and shift the blame on customer - at least that's my experience. "



Then why the fuck do they keep it refrigerated at the pharmacy?
Why the fuck do they package mu geno pens witch ice packs when I pick them up at the pharmacy.
If you believe shipping has zero effects you should inform the pharmacies to stop wasting space in their fridge and wasting ice packs
 

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Perhaps it's not as critical as some would claim. To say that shipping has no effect on GH is retarded. Shipping conditions can vary wildly.
 

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I would love to get to the bottom of these side effects because it is not normal. I wont use generics anymore. Real GH does not give those types of side effects so what the hell is different?!?!?!


Would people use UGL test if it had some strange additional side effects that pharma didn't have???
 

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Then why the fuck do they keep it refrigerated at the pharmacy?
Why the fuck do they package mu geno pens witch ice packs when I pick them up at the pharmacy.
If you believe shipping has zero effects you should inform the pharmacies to stop wasting space in their fridge and wasting ice packs

You're literally arguing with me over something I agreed with, Your pens are not Lyophilized pucks so I can see why they are shipped that way to you? This is speaking specifically to GH that needs to be reconstituted. I even mentioned liquid form lost its potency very quickly from his testing of leaving it outside the fridge.

Serostim is not shipped on ice and works just fine, nor would I ever order pens that are premixed Intl. As to generic sides I cannot speak to that vs pharma.
 

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You're literally arguing with me over something I agreed with, Your pens are not Lyophilized pucks so I can see why they are shipped that way to you? This is speaking specifically to GH that needs to be reconstituted. I even mentioned liquid form lost its potency very quickly from his testing of leaving it outside the fridge.

Serostim is not shipped on ice and works just fine, nor would I ever order pens that are premixed Intl. As to generic sides I cannot speak to that vs pharma.


Geno pens are lyphonized.

How much pharma GH have you used?

I still disagree that shipping wont hurt it.
Temperatures, shipping times, how its handled/packaged are can damage it.
 

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You're literally arguing with me over something I agreed with, Your pens are not Lyophilized pucks so I can see why they are shipped that way to you? This is speaking specifically to GH that needs to be reconstituted. I even mentioned liquid form lost its potency very quickly from his testing of leaving it outside the fridge.

Serostim is not shipped on ice and works just fine, nor would I ever order pens that are premixed Intl. As to generic sides I cannot speak to that vs pharma.


To be clear I am not saying dry pucks cant be shipped without being kept cold. What I am saying to say that shipping will not damage it is a little far fetched
 

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The wife and I just went to Istanbul, Turkey, and every Pharmacy there has Pharma Test, Primo, Anadrol, HGH, clen, cialis, viagra, etc, etc.. I could literally get anything I wanted. So, I did. I got enough Sust 250, primo, and anavar for 6 months to a year, depending on the dosages I want to play around with, I got Anadrol 50, 100 tabs, (haven't experimented with that yet) I got clen, winstrol 10mg, 100 tabs, a bunch of cialis, viagra, arimidex, and a few other things. I also have about $1200 USD tucked away for when I return in 3 months, because I can purchase 6 months worth of Saizen, pfizer, or Gen HGH at 3 IU per day. I just walk up to the fridge in the pharmacy and pull out what I want.

The wife and I live in Beirut, Lebanon and we put everything in our check in bag and all is well. Arrived home safe and then started unpacking my bag. Pictures to follow shortly and I'm positive I'll have you all drooling. Haha :D
 

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The wife and I just went to Istanbul, Turkey, and every Pharmacy there has Pharma Test, Primo, Anadrol, HGH, clen, cialis, viagra, etc, etc.. I could literally get anything I wanted. So, I did. I got enough Sust 250, primo, and anavar for 6 months to a year, depending on the dosages I want to play around with, I got Anadrol 50, 100 tabs, (haven't experimented with that yet) I got clen, winstrol 10mg, 100 tabs, a bunch of cialis, viagra, arimidex, and a few other things. I also have about $1200 USD tucked away for when I return in 3 months, because I can purchase 6 months worth of Saizen, pfizer, or Gen HGH at 3 IU per day. I just walk up to the fridge in the pharmacy and pull out what I want.

The wife and I live in Beirut, Lebanon and we put everything in our check in bag and all is well. Arrived home safe and then started unpacking my bag. Pictures to follow shortly and I'm positive I'll have you all drooling. Haha :D

I figured Lebanon would probably have a good selection of gear, no? They have some decent ties with Iran, and at least some stuff of of the stuff sold Turkey comes from Iran.
 

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I figured Lebanon would probably have a good selection of gear, no? They have some decent ties with Iran, and at least some stuff of of the stuff sold Turkey comes from Iran.


Not at all.. it's a corrupt, bankrupt country. They don't have the usd to import Test, or GH, or anything really. I can find insulin, and t3 here. Oh and you don't need a script for either and ciprolex, for example. But there isn't testosterone anywhere in lebanon.
 

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Not at all.. it's a corrupt, bankrupt country. They don't have the usd to import Test, or GH, or anything really. I can find insulin, and t3 here. Oh and you don't need a script for either and ciprolex, for example. But there isn't testosterone anywhere in lebanon.

That's horrible. I have quite a few Lebanses friends. Good people. The state of the country really is unfortunate. Stay safe brother.
 

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That's horrible. I have quite a few Lebanses friends. Good people. The state of the country really is unfortunate. Stay safe brother.


Cheers brother. Appreciate that. Take care of yourself and enjoy training.
 

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Then why the fuck do they keep it refrigerated at the pharmacy?
Why the fuck do they package mu geno pens witch ice packs when I pick them up at the pharmacy.
If you believe shipping has zero effects you should inform the pharmacies to stop wasting space in their fridge and wasting ice packs
100000000000 percent! If it doesn’t get damaged in shipping that wtf would they bother shipping to pharmacy In a cooler than directly into the fridge
 
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